00:00: Introduction
01:57: The advantages of drawing
08:08: Drawing train 1… describe how you are feeling about work this
14:20: Drawing train 2 … a power you wish to make stonger
16:59: Drawing train 3 … a confidence gremlin that would get in your means this yr
23:26: Drawing train 4 … your dream work day
31:14: Closing remarks
Helen Tupper: Hello, I am Helen.
Sarah Ellis: And I am Sarah.
Helen Tupper: And that is the Squiggly Careers podcast the place each week we borrow some brilliance from concepts or issues we have learn or folks we have talked to, and we flip that concept into one thing sensible you are able to do to help your growth.
Sarah Ellis: And this week we’re borrowing brilliance from drawing, which we needed to speak about first to resolve whether or not it was a noun or a verb, however we determined it was a doing phrase. You possibly can inform we have each obtained younger children. So we’re borrowing brilliance from drawing. And that is one in all our episodes in partnership with Submit it Notes. And we’re actually going to make use of these put up its at present. So if you’re listening, we’re going to do our greatest to explain so that you. You will not miss out. Nevertheless it is perhaps a superb one to go over to YouTube or wherever you watch your podcast as effectively to see some most likely comparatively low high quality drawings, I’d say to handle folks’s expectations.
Helen Tupper: So our movies. Trigger I may not have identified this, however our movies are on Spotify. So you may go on there and you may watch them. Simply go to Squiggly Careers on Spotify and you’ll see it there. Or such as you say on YouTube, you simply go to the Squiggly Careers channel and also you scroll by a lot of unusual pictures of us, like our faces frozen on thumbnails.
Sarah Ellis: Effectively, even when. So, I do not normally watch podcasts. I solely pay attention.
Helen Tupper: I watch.
Sarah Ellis: However there may be one on Spotify the place they’ve began doing video. And in order that does pop up now routinely for me. And so really often it is helped me to alter my habits. So if I am sitting on a prepare, I would then assume, oh, I am going to watch it on the similar time. Or generally I simply cross it. Trigger I feel I am simply listening. So I need not watch.
Helen Tupper: However generally. Trigger I’ve flipped to watching. So I all the time used to pay attention once I was driving. After which I am driving much less.
Sarah Ellis: So you are not watching whilst you’re driving.
Helen Tupper: I am driving much less. However what I do do is I’ll, , there’s on the pelaton I watch as a result of they’ve now obtained on the peloton that built-in YouTube. So I watch my podcasts whereas I am biking as a result of podcasts are typically round half an hour and that is like excellent time for me to train. In order that’s a. That is a win. After which additionally generally I am on a prepare. I’ll. I simply, I do not know. I simply discover, I simply watch on a prepare.
Sarah Ellis: So I discover watching these good. Um, so why have we picked drawing?
Helen Tupper: Why have we picked drawing?
Sarah Ellis: So a couple of enjoyable info for you earlier than we get drawing. So if you draw, there was a research that discovered it has a direct influence in your short-term temper. Oh, that is fascinating.
Helen Tupper: I believed you have been going to say reminiscence.
Sarah Ellis: No, reminiscence is coming. So you might be proper, reminiscence is coming. The following one is supercharges reminiscence.
Helen Tupper: Inform me extra.
Sarah Ellis: It is greater than writing. So that they in contrast and contrasted the writings, , will typically be like journal or write issues down. Really, even a single act of drawing produces extra fast temper advantages for adults. And that is for adults. And even when it is identical to shapes, I feel it is as a result of it is fairly a conscious exercise. I used to be pondering you may’t actually do anything and draw, and possibly that is additionally type of a part of it. It is fairly an energetic relaxation exercise. Drawing is, I suppose, you can be listening to music, however you may’t be answering an e-mail and drawing on the similar time. So good temper booster. It does work for reminiscence. It is known as the drawing impact. So that you get each richer and extra sturdy reminiscence traces than different methods like writing, rereading or verbal repetition. So I suppose if you happen to’re like learning for one thing, one of the best factor you can do, really is visually provide you with a means of making an attempt to, I do not know, , if you happen to’re learning for an examination.
Helen Tupper: Yeah.
Sarah Ellis: Attempting to create drawings that may assist to remind you.
Helen Tupper: It is actually fascinating as a result of listening to you, I may very well be a bit. As a result of I. As a result of we have chatted about this. I feel you might be naturally higher at drawing and pondering in visuals and visually speaking than me. And so I may nearly rule myself out. However what I’ve realized from you, like a technique that reminiscence factor positively works for me. Sarah and I spend lots of our time operating classes, workshops, and displays for firms to carry careers to life in these firms. And we’re typically speaking for an hour, 90 minutes. And there is rather a lot to recollect. And the best way that we put together for that’s as a result of I’ve completed it on the prepare this morning, I’ve obtained a session tomorrow, a keynote that I’ve by no means completed earlier than. And I used to be each fascinated about what I needed to say and I mainly create little grids and in every grid is sort of a thought or a drawing and all I do is keep in mind these drawings. So I have not obtained like a script.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah.
Helen Tupper: I’ve simply obtained visuals in my head and I can, I nearly see like swipe, draw, swipe, draw. It is like what’s in my head. In order that does work for me.
Sarah Ellis: And drawing prompts your mind in a very distinctive means as a result of it requires logic and creativity. And right here really they’re notably speaking about sketching due to your positive motor expertise, hand, eye coordination. Apparently, new neural pathways are fashioned. Observational drawing. You understand, if you happen to, I suppose if you happen to’re drawing folks or an apple or no matter it is perhaps, you have to carry collectively type of each side of your mind. Yeah. And it simply retains on speaking about all of the totally different components, like your prefrontal cortex, the area related to higher-order pondering and govt operate. Apparently, if you draw, that bit involves life. I obtained actually into how good you draw. I made a decision I used to be like, everybody ought to be drawing all the things the entire time. It is simply so good for you. However clearly additionally, , you are getting like affirmation bias in some unspecified time in the future the place, prefer it simply begins telling you. Each analysis you learn, your drawing will get higher and higher. So what we thought we might do at present is present how drawing may assist you in a working week, each by your self and in addition inside a crew. Trigger I feel there’s some enjoyable issues you are able to do as a crew right here. And Helen and I are going to have a go since you may describe or you can draw. So we’re going to have a go at drawing. So lets get our first. We have gone for medium-sized, the tremendous sticky, medium sized put up it be aware first. I’ve obtained a pink one. What are you going for? Yellow.
Helen Tupper: I am going for yellow.
Sarah Ellis: We’re going to go for the big ones in a bit, that are, I’d say are our favourites. It is a bit like, are you allowed a favorite youngster? Are you allowed a favorite put up it? No, I’d say the big ones are our favorite ones.
Helen Tupper: We love them.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, we positively do have a favorite. Okay, I will put my iPad down as a result of we’ll do that on the similar time.
Helen Tupper: Proper. Can I simply caveat this earlier than we begin that I do not assume, I feel some folks may assume, effectively, I am not a superb drawer. Like this complete podcast, I am not a superb drawer. And I’d say that I maintain that thought, however I do not let it maintain me again. Like, I do not assume I am a superb drawer.
Sarah Ellis: I do not assume I’m.
Helen Tupper: Effectively, I do assume you might be higher than me. I do assume I see you rapidly connecting ideas to what you set down on a bit of paper. And I do not assume I am that good. However I feel the extra you do that, the simpler it turns into. And do not, don’t be concerned, do not set a bar for being a superb drawer, as a result of I’ve actually. I’ve realized loads by following your lead right here. You are so. You’re naturally good at it, and I feel I’ve completed it extra due to you, and I discover it actually useful. So I am following your lead on the
Sarah Ellis: podcast at present and I do assume if folks do take a look at our drawings, they may realise it is a comparatively low bar. And I feel your level can be, remember you do not have to share. So you can do that and you can take away the strain of anyone else seeing. I learn one thing actually fascinating about that, about how good that’s so that you can do one thing for the sake of doing one thing fairly than for the sake of sharing. So we’ll do a few actions at present which are extra about crew, however I feel two or three that we’re gonna do. Really, at the beginning, you can simply do that for your self and that will be it. Nobody has to see the drawing. I feel it’s the. Consider it as taking care of your mind, not bettering your drawing expertise.
Helen Tupper: Sure.
Sarah Ellis: Okay. I feel that is like. That is what we’re aiming for right here.
Helen Tupper: Yeah. Okay.
Sarah Ellis: I’m going so as to add in a rule for it as a result of once I’ve completed these kinds of workouts earlier than, I feel this makes it more durable. So I do know, I do know I am making this more durable, however I feel we’ll get extra profit.
Helen Tupper: All proper.
Sarah Ellis: No phrases.
Helen Tupper: Okay.
Sarah Ellis: So. As a result of typically what folks do is that they draw one thing after which they only begin including phrases
Helen Tupper: Can I add a suggestion to your rule?
Sarah Ellis: Go on.
Helen Tupper: I feel attempt to, like, fill the put up it be aware generally. I see some individuals who aren’t assured and I completely get it. Like, as somebody who does not assume they’re good at drawing, I get it. However generally they’re going to choose up a put up it be aware they usually’ll do a drawing and it is within the high proper nook and it is actually small and it is simply because it feels a bit tough to do. So we’ll go for the advice. Fill as a lot of your put up it be aware as you may and a rule, no phrases.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah.
Helen Tupper: Okay.
Sarah Ellis: So our first drawing. Describe how you feel about work this week. Describe how you are feeling about work this week in a drawing. So I will begin drawing and we’re going to do these tremendous quick, everyone. As a result of I’m conscious that us drawing stay on an audio podcast might be not probably the most fascinating. However there we go. Even I am tempted to generally I wish to type of put some phrases.
Helen Tupper: Okay. Okay. I am not going so as to add to it. I am simply going to.
Sarah Ellis: Okay. Proper, let’s do the reveal. You present me your drawing first. Okay, everyone. She has completed a framework or a diagram. So I imply, possibly I ought to have made {that a} rule. I did not assume I would like any individual.
Helen Tupper: I am allowed a framework.
Sarah Ellis: Okay. You’re like.
Helen Tupper: It is a cycle.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah. I imply, you will have drawn nearly like a method wheel. Helen. Proper, Go on.
Helen Tupper: Would you want me to clarify?
Sarah Ellis: I might such as you to clarify.
Helen Tupper: Maintain it as much as the digital camera so
Sarah Ellis: everybody can see it. Okay.
Helen Tupper: Hopefully you may all see it. We’ll put footage of this. I am going to inform you what, we’ll put footage of this in our publication as effectively so that folks aren’t watching.
Sarah Ellis: They will see the publication.
Helen Tupper: So what I’ve completed is a cycle as a result of that is how my week feels. It is a very full on week and I really feel like I am continuously biking, therefore the cycle between conversations with folks. So I’ve obtained a bit of like dialog bubble. Ticks my to do listing. Like dialog, dialog, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. What have been these circles?
Sarah Ellis: Extra biking. Extra biking. We will not keep in mind the circles.
Helen Tupper: I am unable to keep in mind what the circles are. Made sense on the time.
Sarah Ellis: Okay.
Helen Tupper: After which sleep, repeat. I really feel like in the meanwhile my, my week, I am unable to keep in mind what these circles have been, however I do really feel like I. It’s a week the place I’m biking by lots of issues on repeat. Does not imply it is unhealthy, nevertheless it does symbolize how I really feel this week.
Sarah Ellis: Which is helpful to know. Proper? Even identical to listening to you, if I am working with you, if I am in the identical crew as you, simply figuring out that’s actually useful. And really most likely by drawing it, possibly it is introduced it to life differently. Possibly it makes it simpler to speak about. Even simply listening to you describe it, I then assume brings the drawing to life. What.
Helen Tupper: What was I doing? I feel, I am undecided about so quick. I feel that is the factor we’re doing. Drawing and speaking about it on a podcast. Life. It is an additional degree of strain that I hope different folks do not should do.
Sarah Ellis: I’d say take tiny bit longer together with your drawings. And we’re. We’re making an attempt to do it in about 5 seconds so it does not get boring. In case you are listening, I feel it
Helen Tupper: was if you stated, yeah, like, you are
Sarah Ellis: proper, persons are listening.
Helen Tupper: We have got to do it faster. I used to be like, proper, quick.
Sarah Ellis: Preserve biking, hold biking.
Helen Tupper: Cycle much more.
Sarah Ellis: Do you wish to see my one?
Helen Tupper: Sure. Okay. What have we obtained right here?
Sarah Ellis: So these are two folks in a tug of battle.
Helen Tupper: Okay.
Sarah Ellis: And your face, you are like, oh, God.
Helen Tupper: Who’re the folks?
Sarah Ellis: I suppose, form of one in all them is me. And really the opposite, I feel, is definitely a anonymous stick individual. And I feel the tug of battle represents form of the strain generally in our weeks, which I’ve felt this week between what must occur now or what must occur at present or this week and what must occur within the subsequent yr or within the subsequent two years. And I most likely really feel like this week, as a result of we’re all the time doing that. It is like, I may have completed juggling, nevertheless it does not really feel like juggling. It appears to be like just like the balls have been. Oh, my God, I’ve obtained you to your balls. You look so excited. Okay, in order that’s fascinating, proper? Trigger I do not really feel like I am juggling.
Helen Tupper: Yeah.
Sarah Ellis: I simply really feel like most likely that I am being pulled within the two totally different instructions. Most likely the quick time period is successful this week. It is like, very very like what issues most now or what issues most at present. However I. In my head, I am unable to ever let go of what issues most in the long run. It is all the time there for me. And so I discover it exhausting when there is not any house for that. And really, it begins to fret me, or I begin to generally really feel annoyed. After which it most likely additionally begins to influence my having the ability to do what issues most, like, in a day. So I’d say that type of that tug of battle for me, what
Helen Tupper: makes me replicate on, maybe as a result of I actually worth that you’ve that tug of battle as a result of. As a result of I feel I am so drawn to the close to and the now that I. I am very reliant on you holding that stress. And so it type of makes me take into consideration, oh, how may you? How may I assist you not be the one individual, like, holding that stress?
Sarah Ellis: Or maybe me even figuring out that it is helpful.
Helen Tupper: It is actually helpful.
Sarah Ellis: So fairly than me going, oh, it is a unhealthy factor, you really go, oh, no, it is useful.
Helen Tupper: It is actually helpful. I am actually glad you maintain us to account for the long run.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, no, actually helpful. Take off that one. Take, take, discard, or put to 1 facet.
Helen Tupper: No less than put to 1 facet.
Sarah Ellis: We’re not going to do a really. That was like a blended. Blended image. Ought to we are saying? Okay, let’s do a really optimistic one. Okay.
Helen Tupper: That is already extra enjoyable than I believed.
Sarah Ellis: One power that you simply wish to reinforce. Like this yr. So we’re a few months into the yr, into 2026. Draw a power that you simply wish to reinforce.
Helen Tupper: Ooh, fascinating. How do I do draw that? That is what my mind is pondering.
Sarah Ellis: Fascinating.
Helen Tupper: Okay, how do I. You are not going to love this. I am unable to draw that once more. It was going to be one other framework. Cannot draw any frameworks.
Sarah Ellis: You wish to draw a framework, then draw a framework.
Helen Tupper: Okay. No, I’ve obtained it. I’ve obtained it. It is coming to my mind.
Sarah Ellis: Okay.
Helen Tupper: I imply, it isn’t excellent. I do not understand how you.
Sarah Ellis: Okay.
Helen Tupper: Okay. That is nearly as good as it may go first.
Sarah Ellis: Okay, go. Okay. So it is a power I might wish to reinforce.
Helen Tupper: Okay.
Sarah Ellis: And it is. I’ve drawn a lot of. These are mild bulbs, everyone, with type of connecting. Connecting traces and deliberately some traces that go off the web page.
Helen Tupper: Okay. As a result of that is the precise factor that you’ve got completed off the web page traces.
Sarah Ellis: Proper off the web page traces. As a result of it isn’t nearly having concepts. As a result of I do not assume that is my drawback. I feel I can provide you with concepts. I am good at that. However I feel it’s developing with concepts that transcend the place we’re proper now that borrow brilliance from totally different folks and locations that we do not find out about. It is form of concepts into the unknown. And so it is like, that is this sort of power. I wish to reinforce. And I feel you try this by curiosity, going to new locations, speaking to new folks. So it isn’t simply, like, provide you with extra concepts or provide you with higher concepts. It is nearly just like the inventive course of that is sparked by going off the web page.
Helen Tupper: Good.
Sarah Ellis: That is the place I type of.
Helen Tupper: Good. I prefer it additionally. I can see you doing it a bit of bit extra already, and I am valuing it. I am like, oh, what have you ever realized from doing that factor?
Sarah Ellis: What did you get to. Let’s have a look at.
Helen Tupper: So that is mine.
Sarah Ellis: Diamonds.
Helen Tupper: It’s a diamond. Pretty.
Sarah Ellis: That is a superb drawing.
Helen Tupper: I’ve drawn a diamond. Effectively, I used to be making an attempt to assume, is
Sarah Ellis: this since you need diamonds?
Helen Tupper: I imply, I would love some extra diamonds.
Sarah Ellis: No, it isn’t that.
Helen Tupper: It is as a result of I used to be fascinated about readability, and I feel that one in all my strengths, diamonds have readability. They’ve measures of Cs for issues, for readability. The three Cs. I’ve forgotten what Carots. Readability. One thing else cannot keep in mind.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, positively diamonds. I am unable to assist you.
Helen Tupper: Anyway, I am sticking with the ocean of readability as a result of I feel one in all my strengths is creating readability. And I feel I may probably do it much more. I feel I may assist our crew much more. I feel I may possibly have some, like, readability creating questions. I may possibly give the crew some readability creating questions. So fairly than it being reliant on me creating readability, I may replicate on what are the questions I requested to do this that they may then use as effectively.
Sarah Ellis: That is a very nice construct. It is perhaps as a result of there’s. There’s you creating readability, form of nearly doing the exhausting work for the folks, after which there’s serving to different folks to get higher at creating readability for themselves.
Helen Tupper: I imply, there’s most likely a podcast episode in how one can create readability.
Sarah Ellis: We do it each week. So you may most likely do one. I feel that will be extremely helpful as a result of I already see how a lot folks worth you creating readability.
Helen Tupper: I like.
Sarah Ellis: I watch it occur, , form of, as a result of that is not my talent, and I feel it is one thing that you simply type of carry to conversations. So once I’m a part of conversations and you’ll typically take heed to me, so typically I’ll, , golf in a couple of totally different instructions or speak about various things. And I simply really feel such as you’re so good at form of listening and also you’re form of. You are like, processing. I can nearly really feel such as you’re just like the readability creator in your mind is like, I really feel prefer it ought to have a sound. And then you definately go. And it is a query or it is a assertion or it is. These are the three issues that matter most. And I simply assume. I feel I stated this to you earlier this week, really, like, by no means underestimate, I feel, how useful that’s for the folks, how a lot folks recognize that. I feel it is a type of. One of many methods that you’re uniquely helpful. And, , we frequently take our pure abilities without any consideration. I feel you even got here again to me and also you have been like, oh, yeah, however I do not wish to be. I do not know. I do not. I do not wish to get too concerned. I do not wish to get in folks’s means. And I feel I used to be going, oh, I feel you are doing the other. I Really assume you are being actually useful. So I feel that is a very good one. I feel the diamond is genius. That is good pondering.
Helen Tupper: Ah, thanks.
Sarah Ellis: Subsequent one is a bit more durable.
Helen Tupper: Okay, prepared? I am prepared for it now you are prepared.
Sarah Ellis: You are in it. You are in it. Draw a confidence gremlin that you’ve that’s both getting in your means or may get in your means of what you wish to obtain this yr. So generally we simply speak about confidence gremlins typically, however I am making an attempt to attach the dots right here with the boldness gremlin that we have got that would get in the best way of the issues that we wish to do, the issues that we wish to obtain. Okay, right here we go. This one is worse as a result of we really have gotten some stunning confidence gremlins drawings from an expert illustrator. So simply do not examine ours to his,
Helen Tupper: okay? Okay, you prepared? Yeah. Prepared?
Sarah Ellis: You go first this time.
Helen Tupper: Okay, so I am holding as much as Sarah an image. What do you assume it appears to be like like? Describe what you see. Oh, it is like that recreation.
Sarah Ellis: Oh, what, like Pictionary?
Helen Tupper: No, the one with Roy Walker.
Sarah Ellis: Oh. Oh, catchphrase. Say what you see. Say what you see.
Helen Tupper: Say what you see.
Sarah Ellis: A tree?
Helen Tupper: No, it is a mind. You have not received the sport.
Sarah Ellis: Okay.
Helen Tupper: It is a mind with arrows going into it. With crosses.
Sarah Ellis: Proper? Cross.
Helen Tupper: Not indignant crosses, however, like crosses.
Sarah Ellis: Okay.
Helen Tupper: What do you assume this may symbolize?
Sarah Ellis: The damage? Do not know. You cease your self from studying one thing about stopping your self.
Helen Tupper: I really feel like I’ve obtained a confidence gremlin about not. Not, like, including newness into my mind. Like, I really feel like half. I really feel like a part of my vow, a part of the worth you carry is, like, newness. And. And I feel I’ve obtained a gremlin that if I am not bringing newness, then it isn’t beneficial. And I do not. Proper now, I am like, effectively, I do not know the place the novelty is coming from as a result of I am caught in a cycle. Again to the sooner drawing. I am in a cycle, and there’s no house for newness. After which I feel, like, I’ve obtained a gremlin. Like, effectively, how lengthy are you able to be good for if you happen to’re not letting the novelty in?
Sarah Ellis: Okay, so what is the gremlin?
Helen Tupper: The gremlin is that I am not. I am not including as a lot worth. I am not used to. I am not contributing. I am not creating. I am simply not. I’M inferior to I wish to be as a result of I am not. I am not, like, utilizing my mind. I am not like, okay, I am simply type of. I do not know. There’s not a factor may do a factor. It is totally different to, like. Like, I am doing greater than I am pondering. It is not that. I simply. I feel you need to look. I actually assume you need to take care of your mind. I actually assume you need to feed it. Like, I feel you need to sleep effectively. I feel you need to feed it with newness. I feel you need to be curious. And I feel if you’re not doing that, then you definately’ve not obtained an excellent mind. And I’ve this. And again to issues like with AI, I feel we actually should have, like, good brains, Brains with newness, brains which are connecting, brains which are creating. And I feel I’ve obtained a little bit of a confidence gremlin. Like, am I constructing one of the best mind or am I, like, form of simply,
Sarah Ellis: am I getting worse or am I staying nonetheless?
Helen Tupper: That is it. Yeah. Gosh, yeah. I wish to hold going again. There you go.
Sarah Ellis: If it is reassuring. One of many workouts we’ll do shortly. I attempted it this morning on Claude and it did not work. I fairly prefer it when some issues do and it did not. We have not completed it but, however once I get to it, I used to be like, I am going to simply see whether or not that is, like, higher or sooner. And I used to be like, that is, like, means worse. It can’t do that but. Okay. I imply, do I feel it is going to be capable of in some unspecified time in the future, clearly. So these are my boxing gloves.
Helen Tupper: Okay. Who’re you combating?
Sarah Ellis: Effectively, no person. And that is most likely generally my drawback. So clearly I do not wish to really combat folks, however I feel boxing gloves symbolize battle for me. At all times been a gremlin, does not go wherever. I feel that may all the time be with me. However I nonetheless do not say the exhausting factor as a lot as I wish to, in a means that’s helpful for different folks. I feel the exhausting factor, that is by no means my drawback. And I’m good at recognizing points, and I am a superb crucial thinker. It is naturally the best way that my mind works. However I feel the gremlin nonetheless will get in my means. After which I feel it will get in different folks’s means as a result of I do not say the exhausting factor. I am anticipating folks to guess what is going on on in my head, and clearly, that is unimaginable. After which I get annoyed if issues do not get higher or if we do not enhance or no matter it is perhaps. And so since we got here up with, say, the exhausting factor, which is in study like a lobster, I’ve watched you do it very effectively and I feel, like, you are simply, you are simply higher at it than I’m. And I am form of very admiring from the sidelines.
Helen Tupper: I can see myself doing it effectively.
Sarah Ellis: I do know that you’ve. And , we speak about, we are saying the exhausting factor. You begin with a query and also you try to perceive the place persons are and then you definately type of work by it and just remember to’re acknowledging what you have heard after which you might be saying the exhausting factor, however in a form of easy, easy means. And so I feel I can spot alternatives that go me by to cage this gremlin that I do not at present take. And so I am like, oh, it is a actually particular factor, which I feel I do know when it is taking place. And I’ve obtained to extend my very own accountability to cage the gremlin. As a result of that is generally one thing I hear once we do work with confidence with folks is, , like, you nearly give your self a get out of jail card of being like, I am too busy to do something totally different or solely you may cage your gremlins. And sometimes I hear folks form of blame exterior elements and I may positively try this. I may blame being busy. It is not my job. They need to simply kind one thing. You understand, like, it is actually, it is very easy to go, that is, this isn’t about me, however your gremlins are about you. And in order that I’ve completed a superb job of caging that gremlin means, means higher than say like 10 years in the past.
Helen Tupper: Yeah.
Sarah Ellis: And there are some conditions now the place I feel I am good at it, however there are nonetheless some the place I am like, I am inferior to I wish to be. In order that’s my one.
Helen Tupper: You understand, you are like, there are nonetheless some. I wonder if you prioritise the sum, , as a result of if you happen to’re spreading, say, the exhausting factor throughout a lot of conditions, whereas I feel if you happen to have been like, in that, in that state of affairs, that is the most important. That is not my. That is why I am saying the exhausting factor goes to make the most important distinction proper now. I wonder if it’d make it simpler so that you can do it.
Sarah Ellis: So we’ll swap to a brand new type of put up it be aware. Effectively, it isn’t a shock for us as a result of we do use these ones. These are those the place when folks have been discuss. You have been speaking about utilizing the grids, the drawing grids that we each use to arrange. That is what we use. So for people who find themselves watching, we’re onto the. We name them the large yellow sticky. Submit it, although. I feel they’re known as massive.
Helen Tupper: So I used to be in Canada final week. I do not fairly know when this podcast will probably be popping out, however I used to be actually there final week and I might taken the lobster put up it notes with me. And likewise. Trigger I used to be operating a session on Confidence Gremlins, the place I used to be getting everybody to do a confidence gremlin gallery, which is an train that we do once we’re operating that session in individual with folks. I might taken these, the beautiful big yellow ones that we love, and other people have been like, in awe of them. And I. Trigger I might taken so many. I had a complete pack and I, like, I gifted them to any individual and wrote on it and gave them. And I feel it, like made. It made me really feel.
Sarah Ellis: I simply needed to order some extra as a result of I took them to Denmark final week, gave them out, however no person gave them again. You understand, like, folks have been like. As a result of there have been some leftover on the finish, however folks have been placing them of their baggage. So I used to be like, oh, okay, okay, I am going to simply depart these. I used to be like, I simply must order some extra. Proper.
Helen Tupper: What are we doing?
Sarah Ellis: So this. I feel that is the place Claude, who’s normally clearly my finest buddy, didn’t work.
Helen Tupper: Okay.
Sarah Ellis: He is failed. Failed.
Helen Tupper: I do not know.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah. Anyway, it does not work doing it the best way. Additionally, I feel you miss out on all of these advantages that we talked about at the beginning of the episode. You are not getting any of that great things. In the event you simply put a immediate into AI. I am like, you do want to attract. I feel that is very nice as a companion exercise.
Helen Tupper: Okay.
Sarah Ellis: I feel this could be a fantastic factor to do at the beginning of a crew day, , if you’re all the time searching for one thing to get everyone chatting and speaking early on and possibly connecting, attending to know one another. So what I will ask you to do is to explain your dream day. Work day. So we’ll go. Work day. Describe your dream work day to me, and I’m going to try to sketch it as you discuss to me. Okay, Go for it.
Helen Tupper: I am getting up early. It is 5 o’. Clock. Sorry. I will stand up early and. Oh, it is Spring. The solar is shining. It is spring. Solar, birds. Like, I am up. I am up with the wildlife.
Sarah Ellis: Okay.
Helen Tupper: And I am gonna begin outdoors. I am gonna get some. Like, it is quiet. Everybody’s nonetheless asleep. My kids are usually not round. So I am outdoors and I am having breakfast. Good wholesome breakfast. I am pondering in a single day oats and an espresso, if you happen to wanna. I am getting very particular on how my dream day began. And I am studying. That might be dreamy. After which I’m most likely on this dream day, I am working from dwelling. So I am in my. I am in my workplace and I am like able to go by 8 o’. Clock. And within the morning I am. I am. I am most likely taking all that power that I’ve created by beginning my day like that and I am giving it to folks. So I am operating some workshops. I am spending time with the crew. Like, all of the sunshiny power goes to again to the enterprise and to folks. And within the afternoon, my dream day, I am then studying, most likely with some poster notes, and I am like pondering, oh, yeah, that is a superb factor that I may write. Or that’d be a very good concept to share with Sarah. Or that’d be a very good factor for a podcast. After which I might most likely finish my day on my peloton doing a hike, watching one thing fascinating on YouTube. Dream Day.
Sarah Ellis: Dream day.
Helen Tupper: Dream day. Very enthusiastic about that.
Sarah Ellis: How typically do you reckon you will have these dream days?
Helen Tupper: I imply, not that usually, however. However to be extra optimistic, subsequent Friday, I’ve utterly. I’ve. I’ve put no conferences in capital letters in my diary. And apart from choosing my children up from faculty, it’s a day that I can design as I select. And it’s. It’s fairly springy. I may try this day possibly subsequent week.
Sarah Ellis: Do you wanna see your dream day? Yeah, and I am going to maintain it up.
Helen Tupper: I can see cups. I can see.
Sarah Ellis: So you have obtained your. Like, I’ve completed it form of that means, so it type of flows like that. I most likely. If I might have had extra time, I might have drawn a squiggle to, like present the circulate. Yeah, however you are getting up, you are in nature. You have obtained your espresso and your books. That is you in your studio, which appears to be like tiny bit like a tent there. You do not work in a tent. Nevertheless it does form of look. It is very woody. That is you giving your Vitality to different folks, books and concepts and put up its and also you’re type of pelotoning. And I feel what’s fascinating about doing that’s we’re not going to repeat it for me, however ours could be very totally different.
Helen Tupper: Sure.
Sarah Ellis: So you are like, really generally we assume that our dream day is everyone’s dream day. However I imply I can inform you I am not getting up at 5 o’ clock for a begin. However some could be related, some could be totally different. And I feel the purpose is not to really feel demotivated that you simply’re not having your dream day in the meanwhile, however is to form of discover, okay, effectively what are the issues that then possibly you can do daily?
Helen Tupper: Yeah.
Sarah Ellis: And that is not your day daily. Like I do know it isn’t your day daily.
Helen Tupper: Okay. Are you aware if it was my day daily, it most likely would not be
Sarah Ellis: dream day daily. Yeah, yeah. So I feel that is an fascinating perception. Like your dream day is just not the identical as your daily.
Helen Tupper: Yeah.
Sarah Ellis: However if you happen to have been to now take that drawing and if you happen to have been to going effectively out of these issues, what do you wish to make a part of your on a regular basis? Which might be the world the place you would be like, oh, if I used to be circling.
Helen Tupper: Oh effectively, I do not know if it is daily as a result of I feel it is a bit climate dependent. However I am pondering subsequent day I am like, I am pondering having completed that and I am like, okay, effectively what, what’s, what is the, the soonest factor that I can do?
Sarah Ellis: Yeah.
Helen Tupper: And I am pondering it is sunny in the meanwhile. I may positively do my early morning tomorrow. Like I may positively stand up, sit outdoors. I am fairly, I am like fairly trying ahead to the considered that. Yeah, yeah, that’d be a good way to begin my day.
Sarah Ellis: And I feel if you’re doing this as a crew train and if you happen to’re utilizing the enormous yellow put up notes or something totally different, I feel having them up on the wall is very nice. A bit like once we speak about having a confidence gremlin gallery and nearly then you may go round and see totally different folks’s dream days or totally different folks’s confidence gremlins and simply get folks speaking about them. Once we do the boldness gremlin gallery, we all the time get folks to signal their footage, which I all the time assume is absolutely, very nice.
Helen Tupper: Works just about although as effectively, does not it? Like if you happen to had a crew and possibly you go into like a breakout room as a two and I draw yours, you draw mine, and then you definately come again and also you type of. You possibly can maintain it as much as the display screen. That’d be fairly a pleasant, like, crew screenshot, I feel.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah.
Helen Tupper: Of, like, everyone’s dream days, particularly if you happen to’re in a world crew.
Sarah Ellis: I feel all the things that we have completed would work just about.
Helen Tupper: Yeah.
Sarah Ellis: I am unable to consider something that we have. You can. You can do your drawing, proper? Yeah. Sitting at dwelling and simply. Simply maintain them up.
Helen Tupper: Yeah.
Sarah Ellis: I simply assume typically what we’re positively seeing a little bit of a pattern in direction of is now, I feel, most likely as a result of put up the pandemic, everybody’s been understanding how one can work once more. Groups are getting collectively a bit extra incessantly, valuing type of connection and, like, time. Time to, like, reconnect. And I feel typically actions like that is the way you get to know extra about who persons are, not solely why we’re collectively as a crew and what we have to obtain. So once I discuss to groups about issues like values, everybody all the time says, I am going to begin with the why. However I all the time assume it is actually fascinating to begin with the who, as a result of then you definately’re simply connecting with, like, who somebody is what issues to them. Like, that is given me a little bit of an perception into your values. Proper. You understand, like, , I do know a few of your values round, like, freedom and, like, power is like. Like, your values are exhibiting up in your dream day. And I feel it may very well be a bit intimidating to be like, proper, we’re gonna begin our crew day speaking about values. Except you are our crew, through which case they’d most likely be like, certain, we’re anticipating it by this level, however if you happen to have been identical to, we’re all simply gonna speak about our dream work day or simply our dream, possibly even your dream weekend day, if you happen to do not wish to make it a piece day.
Helen Tupper: I feel my dream weekend day most likely could be that day.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, ours could be that totally different. However I feel you get fast clues, fast clues about what motivates and drives folks. So how are you feeling about our drawing workouts at present?
Helen Tupper: Effectively, I used to be going again to the beginning in my head, and also you stated. What did you say? Temper. You stated reminiscence. And there was a 3rd one.
Sarah Ellis: You stated, effectively, it prompts all of the totally different type of components of your mind.
Helen Tupper: Yeah, effectively, I positively. The images are memorable. Like, , I’ve obtained your boxing. I’ve obtained them in my head. I’ve obtained my diamond in my head. However my primary factor is temper, notably due to how we have completed it. Like I began pondering I am not excellent at drawing and I really need different folks to seek out this straightforward. Nevertheless it was very easy. And I really feel like I’ve linked with among the issues that I’ve drawn and I’ve actually loved like listening to what you have drawn and why you have drawn it. It has been a really fulfilling course of additionally
Sarah Ellis: for most individuals in most jobs. How typically do you attract a day? Yeah. Like for most individuals, I think about the reply to that’s by no means.
Helen Tupper: I imply you may doodle.
Sarah Ellis: Sure.
Helen Tupper: However such as you’re not essentially pondering and making a drawing that connects to what you are pondering.
Sarah Ellis: And you can even make it a little bit of a practise or you can do. You can experiment for every week.
Helen Tupper: Proper.
Sarah Ellis: You understand the. How am I feeling about work? You can do, how do I really feel about work at present? On the finish of daily and simply do an image on the finish of each work day and simply try this like utterly. Like a drawing diary utterly for your self. And once more, no person must see it, however identical to simply discover, like how does that assist you? Does it assist you replicate? Does it assist you study? Does it enhance your temper? And it simply is perhaps fascinating, I feel simply given it isn’t a giant a part of most individuals’s working day, nevertheless it’s most likely one thing all of us did hundreds as a child as a result of who did not draw as a child? I feel it is only a talent we neglect. And likewise I do assume folks get actually preoccupied by I am not a superb drawer. Sure. So we type of have this fastened view after which it stops us from having a go.
Helen Tupper: I feel drawing and speaking makes a distinction as a result of my drawing, it does not should be a superb drawing as a result of I am gonna clarify it anyway.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah.
Helen Tupper: I simply wanna like.
Sarah Ellis: It is positive.
Helen Tupper: Yeah, yeah.
Sarah Ellis: So really once I first say to folks, you are not allowed any phrases. Individuals typically look a bit indignant at me. They’re like, effectively, I used to be gonna use these phrases to clarify it. And I am like, effectively no, that is okay. Trigger you are gonna share as an alternative of a draw and a share, which is very nice.
Helen Tupper: Effectively, thanks. I loved that loads.
Sarah Ellis: Welcome. That’s all the things for this week. We hope it has impressed, impressed you to have a go at drawing and to have a play with put up its whether or not you are taking part in with the tiny ones, the medium ones, or our favourites, the large yellow ones. However that is all the things for this week. Thanks a lot. Whether or not you might be listening or watching, if you happen to ever have any suggestions, you may all the time e-mail us. We’re helenandsarah@squigglycareers.com and you probably have time for a 5 minute favour. We all the time actually recognize a assessment. A star ranking actually helps different folks to seek out us and we actually recognize it and browse everybody too. That is all the things for this week. We’re again with you once more quickly. Bye for now.
Helen Tupper: Thanks everyone.
