00:00:00: Announcement!
00:04:00: Introduction
00:06:29: Lobsters are the reply
00:09:28: By no means cease studying
00:10:39: Study-as-you-go examples…
00:10:57: … 1: out-loud vs quiet pondering
00:17:03: Thought: to-think lists
00:19:55: … 2: studying in laborious moments
00:23:53: Thought: fly-on-the-wall info
00:34:22: … 3: lead your personal studying
00:34:30: Thought: be a newbie and discover small firsts
00:41:27: Last ideas
Sarah Ellis: Hello, I am Sarah.
Helen Tupper: And I am Helen.
Sarah Ellis: And that is the Squiggly Careers podcast. And this week, we’ve got large information. Sound impact?
Helen Tupper: Sound impact? I am attempting to make a sound impact. To not give the massive information away too quickly, however what would a lobster sound impact be?
Sarah Ellis: Like claws? Our podcast is so unprofessional. You recognize now, individuals’s podcasts are so slick.
Helen Tupper: And there is me clicking my claws like a lobster. It is positive, it is genuine, Sarah, it is genuine.
Sarah Ellis: Proper, proper. Okay. So, yeah, I imply there’s completely no shock, however pre-orders for our new e-book, Study Like a Lobster, are actually dwell, which isn’t thrilling for anybody. And we all know that.
Helen Tupper: It’s thrilling. It’s thrilling.
Sarah Ellis: Properly, the primary bit is just not, as a result of it’s a must to look forward to ages to get the e-book, however we’ll make it thrilling, proper?
Helen Tupper: I do know, but additionally some individuals, they purchased the primary two books and it is like slightly library that they are increase of Squiggly studying.
Sarah Ellis: I do know, however the e-book does not come out till February.
Helen Tupper: However we have good things.
Sarah Ellis: We now have acquired good things. So, because of this it is best to care. It’s best to care as a result of hopefully it is a good e-book that we do really feel actually pleased with, however we all know, you are like, “Okay, however I’ve acquired to attend until February to start out studying Like a Lobster”. However you do not. We now have provide you with a approach the place you can begin studying with us right away. So, we’re recording this in September. In case you pre-order the e-book now, it is possible for you to to hitch our newly launched, and that is thrilling, Study Like a Lobster library. All the pieces within the library is free, and when you pre-order between 23 September and 1 October, there’s something extra-special coming your approach that’s superior, that I really like. Yeah, it’s extremely thrilling.
Three the reason why you may need to be part of the library. First one, we’ll do three dwell studying workshops in October, November and December, and we’ll offer you a little bit of a flavour for a few of that content material within the podcast right now. So, these are workshops with Helen and I, actually interactive, casual, no strain, simply flip up and be taught masses with, I can assure, an awesome group of individuals, as a result of they at all times are, who flip as much as our studying periods. So, you may get all three of these free of charge.
Helen Tupper: And so they’re digital.
Sarah Ellis: And so they’re digital, yeah, wherever on the planet. And when you do miss one, we are going to report them when you’re within the library, so you possibly can return, however good to hitch dwell when you can. As quickly as you be part of the library, you’re going to get a ten-minute Study Like a Lobster device that you should use for your self and share together with your groups, which is all about experimenting so you possibly can be taught extra from conferences. It’s potential. After which the final half, I believe, is simply the chance to be a part of a tremendous group, a group who will likely be curious, who may have good concepts that we have not even thought of, who they may share generously, as a result of our Squiggly Profession group at all times do this. So, I believe you’ll be smarter, extra capable of navigate your Squiggly Profession when you turn out to be a part of that library. And all it’s a must to do is as soon as you’ve got pre-ordered, you simply e mail that pre-order to hi there@learnlikealobster.com, after which that is it. We ship you the hyperlink so you may get into the library, get all the workshops to enroll and put these in your diary, you possibly can obtain the device straightaway. And if you wish to, we may have a WhatsApp group as effectively you possibly can be part of, not necessary. I do know some individuals have already got too many WhatsApp teams of their life. However in order for you the training one, it will likely be there and prepared and ready for you.
Helen Tupper: I believe if any of you’ve got executed the Dash, you’ve got in all probability had slightly little bit of a flavour for what it feels prefer to be a part of the Dash group, whether or not you’ve got had one in your staff or whether or not you perhaps joined a few of our LinkedIn Lives. We had about 1,400 individuals be part of our LinkedIn Reside to kick off the Dash. And I noticed a lot assist in that group, like individuals buddying as much as be taught with one another, and I believe that’s what the members of the Study Like a Lobster library will likely be like. These are individuals which are dedicated to their studying, they need to develop, they need to develop, they usually’re prepared to speculate a little bit of power and provides, I believe, give a little bit of power to different individuals as effectively. So, if that feels such as you, we might love you to turn out to be a member.
So, right now’s episode, as Sarah mentioned, we need to offer you slightly little bit of a flavour for what Studying Like a Lobster seemed like, and likewise to only join just a few dots between Squiggly Careers and studying, and why we predict that is such an vital factor for individuals to give attention to proper now. So, as you understand, when you’ve been following Squiggly Careers for some time, we’ve got a perception that the thought of ladder-like careers holds individuals again, as a result of it’s extremely decided by the extent that you simply’re at, it’s all about life and work being very linear, and that does not actually mirror our actuality, and likewise, it does not give individuals the selection and management in regards to the course they need to develop in. So, we do not assume that is nice. We imagine Squiggly Careers are a significantly better answer as a result of they provide those who selection and management, they usually additionally lead to careers which are far more resilient to all of the modifications we’re experiencing.
Sarah and I’ve now been engaged on Squiggly Careers for over ten years, which is loopy. I believe it is in all probability going to be practically 15 quickly. We have been at this for some time. And I believe we’ve got seen universally within the organisations that we work in, the international locations we work in, the individuals we work with, that there’s a super-skill that helps individuals reach Squiggly Careers, and that’s studying. It is individuals’s openness to be taught, it is individuals’s capability to be taught, but additionally it is their recognition that studying appears to be like completely different in a Squiggly Profession. So, this is not about happening programs and buying {qualifications} and studying taking a number of time. One of the best learners in Squiggly Careers see that studying is one thing that you simply add in to your work, relatively than it at all times being one thing you add on. It’s miles extra about curiosity than it’s about programs. And it is easy issues, like the standard of the questions you ask, not the variety of {qualifications} that you simply get.
What we try to do with Study Like a Lobster, for causes that we are going to inform you about these very, very superb lobsters in a second, we try to make use of a few of the brilliance of lobsters to assist individuals reconnect with what studying appears to be like like at work, as a result of we frequently say that you simply used to go to work to be taught to do the job, and now studying is the job. We simply want to take a look at how we do this job and we imagine that lobsters are the reply. So, I will let Sarah inform you why.
Sarah Ellis: In fact we do. Everybody appears to be like on the e-book cowl and the title and everybody’s like, “Oh yeah, that is good, that is actually stunning and playful”. After which everybody simply says, “Why lobsters?
Helen Tupper: “However why?”
Sarah Ellis: “Why?” However ‘why not’ is the query. So, lobsters are good for 3 causes. One, they by no means cease rising, so there is not any level the place they cease rising all through their life. Two, they develop probably the most in laborious moments, so that they shed their laborious outer shells. And in that second, they get actually jelly-like and susceptible. And to be sincere, having watched various movies on-line of this course of taking place, to make it possible for we understood what it was, I imply it appears to be like so exhausting and energy-zapping and troublesome. And all of us have shell-shedding moments, proper, in our careers and in our weeks. I am having some enjoyable ones of these this week, which maybe we’ll discuss later. And so, the lobster does not have any selection, it type of occurs to them. And I believe typically that’s the similar for us. With the quantity of uncertainty and alter in our careers, there will likely be shell-shedding moments, they’re type of inevitable. However can we develop, can we develop because of this, and in these moments as effectively?
Then lastly, and that is I believe my favorite lobster truth, I by no means thought I’d say that sentence, lobsters gas their very own development. They’re so resourceful they usually’re like a sustainable little system as a result of these previous shells that they shed, they then eat, as a result of they’re — that is a very bizarre sound. Do not do this. I am banning that.
Helen Tupper: “By no means do this once more!”
Sarah Ellis: I am vetoing that sound as a part of our promotions for the e-book. As a result of their shells are stuffed with calcium. So, they eat them, which is wise, proper? So, they do not have to attend for meals to come back their approach. They’ve type of created their very own approach of continuous to develop. And we in all probability needn’t dive into lobsters any greater than that. However there will likely be a number of lobster puns coming your approach, as a result of it’s irresistible. However generally, I believe having a playful and stunning approach to take a look at studying hopefully helps it to really feel like one thing we will all simply have some enjoyable with. I believe studying ought to at all times be one thing to look ahead to. And truly, typically after we discuss to individuals and we ask in regards to the boundaries, it isn’t one thing to look ahead to. It is one thing that individuals really feel pissed off by, “I can not discover any time to be taught. I by no means get to be taught or there is not any cash for me to be taught”. There’s a number of this stuff that simply really feel troublesome about studying, “Oh, I will wait to be taught till this busy interval is over”. And I believe our fear is, is that if we wait, if we attempt to discover the time, if we depend on different individuals, you might find yourself getting left behind in your profession. And we would like you to have as many alternatives and prospects as potential. And we predict when you be taught like a lobster, you stand a very good probability of constructing that occur.
Helen Tupper: I simply see this like large march of lobsters. I am like, “We will take over with these studying lobsters”.
Sarah Ellis: Do lobsters march?
Helen Tupper: Ours do. Ours are marching into corporations and saying, “I demand studying!” However I simply need to make the parallels between lobsters which have these three type of traits that Sarah talked about, with studying, actually clear, and that’ll be the construction of what Sarah and I share subsequent. So, if lobsters by no means cease rising, then what we’re speaking about is rarely stopping studying. We would like everybody to be taught as they go, day by day, in order that studying turns into continuous. And if lobsters develop most in these laborious moments after they’re actually, actually susceptible, then that is after we need to be taught. We need to be taught probably the most in our hardest moments, perhaps whenever you really feel such as you’re failing otherwise you’ve made a mistake, or perhaps whenever you get suggestions that feels actually laborious to listen to and you actually really feel susceptible, that is after we need you to be taught probably the most, as a result of, sure, you are a bit uncovered, however there may be huge studying in that second when you simply have a look at it barely in a different way.
Then, the very last thing in regards to the lobster consuming its shell, we do not need you to eat your shell, that may be bizarre. However what we do need you to do is gas your personal studying. So, we would like you to be actually resourceful about the way you create your personal studying. And within the e-book, we cowl a great deal of alternative ways which are in your management. So, you do not have to ask for permission, you do not have to attend for another person to say that it is okay to do it. We would like you to create as a lot studying and gas as a lot studying as you possibly can, and that is how we structured the e-book and that is how we’re connecting the dots between the 2.
Sarah Ellis: So, right now, again to regular podcast to be sincere, we’re now going to be actually sensible and we’ll discuss be taught as you go, be taught in laborious moments, lead your personal studying. And we’ll take one instance that is within the e-book, and we’ll discuss it, so that you get a little bit of a flavour and a little bit of a really feel for the types of issues that we’ll be describing. So, the primary one, be taught as you go, a kind of chapters is about simple and on a regular basis experiments. Again to Helen’s level about, “Let’s add experimenting into what we already do, relatively than feeling like an add-on”. And the experiment we’ll discuss right now is the distinction between out loud and quiet pondering. And I actually like this quote from Shane Parrish. He says, “Pondering higher than others means that you will have extra free time and fewer issues”. And I am like, “Excellent. I would like the free time and I would like fewer issues”. And I believe all of us have a pure desire in all probability by way of our pondering kinds. You are both extra of an out-loud thinker otherwise you’re extra of a quiet thinker.
However whenever you experiment with alternative ways of pondering, I believe you be taught extra, however you are additionally extra agile and also you’re extra adaptable in your artistic pondering, your capability to resolve issues. So, if I describe a few of the examples of what out-loud pondering may appear to be and what quiet pondering may appear to be, then Helen and I are going to speak about our pure preferences after which what we would experiment with to see what we be taught. Good query that we repeat truly rather a lot within the e-book is like, “What is going to I be taught?” Preserve asking your self that, “What is going to I be taught?”
So, when you’re an out-loud thinker, because the title suggests, you in all probability need to discuss to different individuals. So, you need to run your ideas previous anyone. So, that is likely to be a voice observe to somebody, may very well be a stroll and discuss with somebody saying, “Can I share my first ideas with you?” Possibly it is speaking by way of a thoughts map, but it surely in all probability entails having a dialog, perhaps with a gaggle of individuals, however may very well be one-to-one. Quiet thinkers are more likely to carry the pondering and the concepts of their head. So, an out-loud thinker would in all probability create a thoughts map to speak to anyone about; a quiet thinker would simply create a thoughts map for themselves. They are much extra more likely to go for a stroll and simply assume for themselves relatively than discuss to anyone else. Possibly, you even voice observe to your self, you understand, individuals voice observe to themselves and get that transcript of, effectively, what are they pondering?
Really, there’s some actually attention-grabbing analysis that we discovered. All through the e-book, we’ve got these skilled insights. And one of many skilled insights on this part is round self-explaining. And truly, the talent of self-explaining is absolutely useful for creating readability. So, when you’re ever feeling confused or overwhelmed, truly speaking to your self, this concept of quiet pondering however simply type of with your self, truly may help you to make sense, to make sense of your ideas. So, Helen, naturally, extra of an out-loud thinker or extra of a quiet thinker?
Helen Tupper: Far more of an out-loud thinker. Yeah, it is simply the best way I course of. Even the podcast, I believe the podcast rather a lot for me is me out-loud pondering. I’ll provide you with concepts in dialog with you. And it has its advantages and its drawbacks. So, its profit is, because of a dialog, I typically create concepts I did not have after I went into it, like super-helpful. However the draw back is, I am very depending on individuals having time to have a dialog with me, and likewise a selected form of individual, who’s prepared to only sit with me in that form of bizarre, ambiguous dialog house the place I can provide you with concepts. So, I can not do it on a prepare, for instance, with a random individual sat subsequent to me.
So, with this one, I truly did this yesterday, I have been experimenting much more with the quiet pondering. I did a thoughts map. I do know you fairly like a thoughts map. It isn’t at all times the very first thing that I’d do for my ideas. However I used to be pondering slightly bit about my community, and I would reread some analysis on the significance of weak ties and all types of stuff. Mainly, it talked about weak ties and constructing your community, and you don’t need actually far-out weak ties of individuals that you simply actually do not know very effectively, and you don’t need individuals which are actually fairly near you. You need individuals mainly within the center. So, I used to be doing this thoughts map of leapfrog weak ties. I used to be like, who do I do know? Who’s the one which they know? And I used to be simply type of mind-mapping. I simply sat there, not lengthy, like 5 minutes, and that is the primary time I’ve talked about it, and I did not discuss that concept or something. I simply sat there and with my very own ideas for 5 minutes, simply drawing it out to see what it got here up with, with no actual expectation. However I discovered it very helpful.
So, I believe I would simply construct, you understand, relatively than my first level of name being, “I would like to carry this thought till I’ve a gathering and I can discuss it by way of”, I believe truly, I would strive extra typically to make use of a thoughts map first and simply see how a lot readability that creates earlier than I’ve the dialog. What about you, what’s your default?
Sarah Ellis: So, I believe that is attention-grabbing as a result of I believe individuals may assume, actually individuals who know as effectively, as a result of I am positively extra introverted, you are positively far more extroverted, however I’m additionally an out-loud thinker. After I have a look at the vast majority of my pondering, it’s executed with anyone else. And I believe that is typically, if I take into consideration a lot of my greatest pondering, it is typically in a room.
Helen Tupper: By way of a voice observe?
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, however weirdly, I solely do this primarily to you.
Helen Tupper: Thanks.
Sarah Ellis: And I do really feel like generally I positively do it to you. However I used to be fascinated by, so after we had been collectively over the summer time and we had been speaking about Study Like a Lobster, that is my happiest pondering house and place, is nearly like facilitating that dialog. I’ve executed some ideas beforehand, however we’re creating and we’re form of pondering as a duo. Nevertheless it’s fairly excessive depth and fairly excessive want. It is nearly like, you possibly can’t create that chance fairly often. And once more, I believe I used to be pondering for myself, like I believe I generally share too quickly, you understand, nearly as a result of it is in all probability the best way that we work, like we’re not in an workplace. You do not even have random chats with individuals as a result of we do not within the work that we do and the way we work. And so, I believe generally my voice notes are that. It is ideas simply in my head that I ought to in all probability simply write down in one thing like a to-think listing.
So, one of many concepts that we have within the e-book earlier than out-loud and quiet pondering, is to-think lists. And that is the thought of not solely having a to-do listing, however having a to-think listing to perhaps write it down as a collection of questions, or issues that you simply need to assume extra deeply about, however once more, not holding it in your head. And I’ve executed {that a} bit however not constantly, however once more, it is a bit September cliché; I purchased a brand new pocket book. And I very deliberately…
Helen Tupper: I have never seen this new pocket book. What does it appear to be?
Sarah Ellis: So, it is vivid yellow, A4, plain paper.
Helen Tupper: Commonplace. Sarah at all times has a large pocket book. Did not you may have an A3 pocket book as soon as?
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, as soon as, yeah. And it is plain as a result of I do not like traces or dots. I confirmed somebody on our staff they usually seemed nearly indignant about it. They had been like, “The place are the traces?” And I used to be like, “No, I like plain”, they usually had been like, “No”. You can simply see that they had been like, “That is completely not for me”.
Helen Tupper: Was that Lucy? I really feel like there’s somebody on our staff who values effectivity and I really feel like she may like traces on a web page.
Sarah Ellis: No, it wasn’t, however I confirmed a web page of it, and my writing and elegance of factor, it’s simply messy. However I’ve determined that I am simply going to embrace that. So, for me, my experiment in the intervening time is type of connecting the dots with pondering. It is like, truly, what quiet pondering appears to be like like for me is having a to-think listing and I will do it on an enormous web page, and I will simply preserve coming again to it, preserve including to it, to the purpose the place I am like, “Oh, and now I have to do a brand new one and replace it”. However I will set myself the problem of between September and Christmas, I would like to have the ability to look again at that pocket book and really clearly see a collection of to-think lists, and simply — generally, I believe I depend on you an excessive amount of. You recognize generally I believe you may get over-reliant on one individual? I believe I do overly depend on you.
Helen Tupper: Am I being dumped for a pocket book?
Sarah Ellis: You might be. You might be being dumped for an enormous yellow pocket book.
Helen Tupper: Nice!
Sarah Ellis: So, that is going to be my experiment. I additionally assume this can be a nice chat to have as a staff. We have talked earlier than about like, how do you’re employed collectively as a staff, how do you assume collectively as a staff? Really, nearly saying, “Properly, how do you assume right now?” which we have each described, however then it is like, “How else?” How else may you do pondering? How else may you experiment? As a result of I simply assume the extra completely different approaches you may have, the extra creativity you may have, and likewise simply the extra choices you give your self.
Helen Tupper: Simply to your level there about doing it as a staff exercise, I believe studying like a lobster is even higher whenever you do it collectively as a staff, as a result of I believe that creates a dedication and a shared understanding of what studying appears to be like like. So, all this stuff that we’re speaking about, I believe nevertheless you possibly can buddy up or do them collectively, I believe it might be even higher. You may be taught extra about your self, you may be taught extra about them, you may create an setting that makes studying simpler for everyone, it is simply higher. So, please discuss these concepts collectively as a staff.
So, our second factor, Sarah talks about shell-shedding moments. Within the e-book, we name this part studying in laborious moments. And I discussed earlier, some apparent ones are like moments the place, I do not know, you’ve got made a mistake otherwise you really feel like one thing’s failing or it is harder than you anticipated, otherwise you’ve had some suggestions that is perhaps jarred a bit with you and the way you need to come throughout to individuals. Generally I believe a tough second is when it feels actually overwhelming. You are attempting so laborious, you are perhaps not making the momentum that you’ve. I believe we have all skilled these moments. And the problem in your studying, I believe, whenever you’re in the course of one in every of these laborious moments is that you could doubtlessly lose a little bit of perspective. So, both you simply need to get it over and executed with, so studying is just not prime of your listing since you simply need to get by way of it and get on with the subsequent factor, and I am dashing by way of the second. Or perhaps you lose slightly little bit of perspective.
I believe generally feelings are increased in these moments. You get a bit like, “Oh, it is simply terrible. All the pieces’s terrible. It is all too laborious. It is all too troublesome”. And that is probably not placing our mind in the most effective house to extract the training from that second, of which there will be heaps. There will be studying in regards to the relationships you’re constructing with different individuals, there will be studying about what you deliver to the state of affairs, there will be studying about what you do in a different way subsequent time you is likely to be in it. We lose all of that studying except we discover a technique to re-look at studying in that onerous second.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, and one of many issues truly we do in the beginning of that chapter, we discuss nearly how your preferences and character can imply that you simply miss out on the training, you lose it. And that is, I believe, a bit completely different for all of us. So, think about you are in a little bit of a shell-shedding second, like issues are actually troublesome. Helen is unquestionably somebody who’s so optimistic that she simply strikes on too quick, proper? So, you are like, “Properly, it is executed now”. And then you definately simply discuss your self into the, “I am positive”, we get a number of, “I am positive”. However then you definately’ve moved on, however then you definately go away the training behind. So, that form of nearly over-optimism can get in the best way. I get into nearly evaluation paralysis. So, I am like, “Properly, why, why has it gone unsuitable? And why, and what?” and I dig and dig and dig. And it is such as you’re attempting to get to root causes, however in a approach that’s actually unhelpful, since you begin to get into too many particulars, and also you need to perceive completely every part about it. And once more, that stops you. You do not search for the training, you are nearly extra within the attempting to overly clarify and overly perceive, as a result of that is my model of attempting to make sense of it. but it surely’s too ‘why’ like, so I do not be taught both.
Helen Tupper: I really feel like I’ve acquired a visible now of a Squiggly Profession, and mine has a number of little brains dropped alongside the best way. You recognize like I’ve dropped little bits of my brains that might have been studying at completely different knotty moments? And yours has these knotty moments the place there’s only a mind going spherical in circles and it is simply spinning slightly bit.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah.
Helen Tupper: We need to deliver the mind with us in our Squiggly Profession.
Sarah Ellis: And truly, what’s so attention-grabbing is after we had been researching for this part and we had a e-book in beta group who we researched all of the concepts with, and we have examined every part that is within the e-book a great deal of occasions to make it possible for all of it virtually works, as a result of clearly the factor we care most about is being helpful, everyone shared with us, truly the time they assume they’ve realized probably the most has at all times come from a tough second. So, we all know it is there, we all know the training is there, however I suppose what we do not need to do is depend on a tough second. But in addition, I believe there are smaller laborious moments and smaller laborious shell-shedding conditions, the place individuals are like, “Oh, I simply do not have the capability to be taught when that is taking place”. And so, our problem to ourself was like, let’s use that constraint as a technique to go, “However what when you may be taught?” In these moments the place individuals in that group had been saying to us, “I simply cannot be taught then”, we had been like, “Okay, however what when you may? What would we have to provide you with in order that you might be taught in these moments?” So, that is what we’re attempting to do.
Helen Tupper: So, the concept that we have right here is known as fly on the wall info. And what we need to think about right here is we’re attempting to create slightly little bit of distance between you and the state of affairs that you simply’re in, so that you could be barely extra in observer mode. You are flying on the fringe of it, and you’re questioning and inquisitive about what you are seeing and what you are taking place, you are gathering info, as a result of info are data, they may give us perception, we will be taught from them. And so they’re slightly bit extra goal than the emotions that you simply may need on this state of affairs, which is likely to be distracting from the training. And Sarah talked about, we’ll, I believe, perhaps experiment with this dwell with you now, as a result of Sarah talked about that It does not all must be laborious, knotty moments in our profession, like, I do not know, you are going by way of a restructure otherwise you’ve acquired a supervisor that you simply’re actually battling. It does not actually must be the massive laborious ones. This may very well be a little bit of a small laborious second, which I’d say Sarah and I are in proper now. Like this week, we have positively had just a few WhatsApp messages which have been indicative of, as an instance, a tough week. It is a laborious week. And that, I believe, is a flag to say, “However there may very well be lots of studying on this”. I believe any time you are in a tough second, a tough week, a tough day, a tough assembly, simply relatively than going, “Oh, it is terrible”, simply go, “But when I seemed for the training, what would I see?” And that is the place fly-on-the-wall info are available in.
Sarah, would you want to steer us by way of our fly-on-the-wall info for this week?
Sarah Ellis: Sure. I imply, you say this week, it is like 10.00 on a Tuesday morning.
Helen Tupper: Yeah, I do know, I did assume that.
Sarah Ellis: So, I imply there’s positively a ‘issues can solely get higher’ mindset that may come from this. However after we had been fascinated by the podcast, I used to be like, “Properly, that is the turning level”, I’ve determined, for the week.
Helen Tupper: That is the training level.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, that is the training level. Superb.
Helen Tupper: Thanks.
Sarah Ellis: That is why you possibly can write the lobster puns. So, what I will do, I will ask Helen a collection of questions, and we’re simply going to see what occurs, see if she will be able to get some extra studying from what’s occurred up to now within the first day-and-a-bit of the week. So, Helen, I would like you to think about now you are a fly buzzing round what is going on on and what’s gone unsuitable up to now this week. And since you’re a fly, you possibly can solely observe, you possibly can pay attention, however you do not know anybody’s feeling, you possibly can solely actually see actions and behaviours, you possibly can solely see issues which are observable. You do not know what anybody’s pondering or feeling, so it’s a must to think about you do not know what I am pondering or feeling, which may very well be fairly tough. However yeah, you are like a kind of actually annoying flies that you could’t kill, buzzing round from wall to wall, and so forth. And also you’re actually fascinated by the info of a state of affairs.
A very helpful immediate right here is, “What do I do know to be 100% true about this example. So, you are actually going for these concrete observations. So, inform me one factor that you understand to be true about this week up to now.
Helen Tupper: That is our busiest second of the yr in our enterprise.
Sarah Ellis: Okay. So, that is the busiest second of the yr up to now in our enterprise. So, that is actually useful. And truly, you and I have never mentioned that out loud to one another. What we have executed is dived into like, “That is laborious, that is annoying”, or no matter. So, okay, that is fairly context level, proper? So, that is given you a long way and perspective. That is the busiest week. Okay. Let’s do a ‘what else’ query. What else have you learnt to be 100% true in regards to the final day and two hours?
Helen Tupper: We now have acquired new individuals working in our enterprise that have not labored in our enterprise earlier than, and we have present those who labored in our enterprise doing new issues.
Sarah Ellis: Okay, attention-grabbing. So, there is a various newness on newness there. There’s new individuals after which there’s new work, so various newness. Okay. After which, if I used to be to push you for one last commentary that that fly has seen within the final day and a bit, what else do you assume the fly would say?
Helen Tupper: Totally different working patterns imply that issues do not get resolved as rapidly within the second.
Sarah Ellis: Okay, so the fly may need seen our staff had been working, as a result of our staff will work at completely different hours and completely different days, so they’d observe that. After which, they’d have noticed, okay, effectively then when you have to repair one thing, it takes some time, as a result of it’s a must to look forward to all the celebrities to align primarily.
Helen Tupper: Okay.
Sarah Ellis: So, you having answered that query, so similar query actually, simply in three alternative ways, me prompting you, how does that then make you’re feeling about the place we’re? So, truly, you are placing the fly down and coming again to your self.
Helen Tupper: There is a second sound impact I am not allowed to make within the characteristic.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, kill the fly, yeah.
Helen Tupper: Have you learnt, truthfully, it does make me assume completely different, as a result of I believe till I simply mentioned these issues out loud, I believe I used to be doing a bit like Whac-A-Mole with an issue, like, “Oh, that is annoying, whack that drawback. That is annoying, whack that drawback”. And truly, after I say it out loud to you, I am like, “There’s a greater factor happening that can in all probability result in a number of different issues except it will get solved”. Like, truly, we’re all working at completely different occasions, however we want just a few core hours, core conferences every week, in any other case we’re not fixing issues rapidly, like solve-it periods, or one thing.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah.
Helen Tupper: Possibly there is a bit, like, nearly not onboarding feels a bit old fashioned, however I do not know, perhaps there is a, you understand the novelty factor? I am like, “Oh, we have to additionally verify in with the individuals about how they’re feeling in regards to the newness, relatively than assumptions that we’re making”. So, I believe perhaps it is made me take into consideration the issues that I am fixing, whether or not I may very well be whacking lots of moles relatively than truly going, “Properly, how can we extra considerably tackle a few of these issues that we cease creating the issues within the first place?” That is what it is made me assume.
Sarah Ellis: Additionally, simply listening to you after which reflecting on what you simply mentioned, there’s the, “Properly, if that is how we’re feeling, how is everyone else feeling?” query, which I do not assume you and I do at all times take into consideration, as a result of we’re so in it and sometimes so attempting to resolve the issues or to get stuff sorted or to consider what do we have to put in place, you understand, simply that query or that checking in with individuals. And truly, it is attention-grabbing simply listening to you there. I did do this with anyone in our staff who’s new, on the finish of final week. And I am typically fairly stunned by individuals, they had been like, “Oh, I used to be feeling a bit apprehensive that I wasn’t doing that effectively, or it is felt a bit laborious, however now I am feeling significantly better and extra targeted and I do know what must get executed”. And that was fairly a spontaneous dialog, which isn’t a nasty factor. Nevertheless it was a bit extra of a contented accident relatively than me being intentional about that.
So, I believe what the fly typically does as effectively is it encourages you, sure, to zoom out, but additionally to see issues from different individuals’s views. However then you definately do additionally begin to get some fairly significant actions. Like, I can hear you want attending to some, with out diving into a great deal of element about our firm, however I can hear you beginning to get to, okay, effectively, in addition to generally you do must whack the mole, that does must occur, however truly what you do not need to do is preserve doing that the entire time. That is not sustainable, it is also not enjoyable for anybody, if that is what we’re doing. So, then you definately get into an even bigger, in all probability extra helpful studying query like, “Properly, what do we have to do in a different way? What are we not doing that we have to begin doing?” So, it simply helps you be calm.
Helen Tupper: Yeah, it does. Yeah. And I truthfully assume I’ve acquired slightly bit extra empathy in simply speaking, which I believe as a result of such as you mentioned, the fly’s zooming out slightly bit and seeing it from different individuals’s views. However I positively assume the thought of solve-it periods, I am like, we must always simply have these as a result of it is inevitable. That is the busiest time of our yr and individuals are doing issues they’ve not executed earlier than. It is inevitable there will be issues that may’t be mounted in a short time as a result of individuals are working completely different patterns. So, we’ll simply put some solve-it periods in. And if we do not want them, superb. Not solely do you get time again, we have not acquired stuff that we have to repair. Improbable. It is a double win.
Sarah Ellis: And I believe for me, I used to be studying this and fascinated by this in a really completely different state of affairs. So, this week, out of my management, we have had some storms within the UK and my web broke.
Helen Tupper: You possibly can’t management the climate?
Sarah Ellis: I do know, it is outrageous. Yeah, and my web broke and our web is especially vital for the roles that we do. It is vital for most individuals, but it surely’s fairly laborious to do our jobs with out the web. And if I truly reply these questions as a fly, I truly really feel very in a different way about what’s occurred over the past day or so, as a result of I used to be feeling, clearly, it is actually irritating. I’ve needed to discover different locations to work. It has been actually disruptive, it is felt actually traumatic, I felt actually burdened. Whereas truly, if I am simply the fly and I am ignoring all my very own emotions, what the fly would see is, okay, effectively, I have never disrupted any of our studying companions that we work with, we have delivered all the studying that we dedicated to, and I nonetheless really feel like I did a good job of that. Like, I acquired engagement and did some good periods, some good workshops. I’ve been capable of rapidly, with some assist from you, type myself out to be somewhere else. So, I am in a really random resort room proper now, however the resort room has acquired web, and proper now, staff, that is all we care about.
So, truly, what the fly could be, the fly could be like, “Properly, it is positive, you’ve got sorted all of it, you had been within the locations you wanted to be, you’ve got delivered every part you’ve got wanted to do. And truly, the place you wanted to make modifications”, so that you and I’ve needed to change some issues due to it, “you may have executed that too”. And so, truly by way of outcomes and supply, what I do know to be 100% true is I’ve executed all of the issues I wanted to do. It hasn’t felt very enjoyable, however the fly does not care about that. And so, generally when you’re simply attempting to make your self really feel a bit higher in regards to the final — I do not really feel excellent in regards to the final 24 hours, or actually I did not this morning. However truly, after I have a look at it from the fly’s viewpoint, I truly nearly begin to really feel like, “Oh, however I’m fairly pleased with the truth that we have sorted it and that we’ve not let individuals down, and that I’ve executed the issues that the staff or our companions want us to do”. And so, if something, you simply type of go, “Okay, effectively, there’s one thing fairly good to be taken from that”. I’ve realized that truly, when surprising issues come our approach, we are going to discover a approach. I really feel like that’s mainly our mantra. We’ll discover a approach.
Helen Tupper: “The fly would say it is positive”. I prefer it.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, the fly would say it is positive.
Helen Tupper: So, the final space I need to discuss then goes again to that concept that the lobster is fuelling its personal development, so we would like you to steer your personal studying. And the concept that we have for you right here is all about being a newbie and discovering small firsts in your work. So, being a newbie signifies that we’re capable of begin from scratch, we’re not letting our present data and experience get in the best way of our studying. And it’s a actually useful and wholesome place to place your mind in, that form of newbie’s strategy to taking a look at a state of affairs and seeing it for the primary time, seeing it with recent eyes. And generally we have to, I assume, look fairly rigorously to seek out these firsts. It does not at all times come clearly to us, as a result of we’re so used to working in the identical patterns and selecting up the identical routines in our work. So, we would need to get slightly bit artistic about how we discover some small firsts in our work that may assist our mind to only be a bit extra of a newbie.
Sarah Ellis: I even have a little bit of a speculation that in a Squiggly Profession, there are simply masses extra newbie moments, due to new expertise, new jobs, uncertainty. So, I type of go, we all know already, I believe you possibly can anticipate a great deal of newbie moments. And so, the extra you practise being a newbie, then you definately’re like, “Properly, they’re those that you simply’re in charge of”. Like, I am going to decide on to be a newbie, in order that then additionally when you don’t have any selection however to be a newbie as a result of staff modifications or all of a sudden I’ve acquired a brand new talent or all of a sudden I will want to make use of AI in an entire new approach, truly that does not really feel fairly as daunting. As a result of being a newbie at all times feels a bit daunting, as a result of you do not know what you do not know. However when you’ve nearly acquired used to the sensation, just like the uncomfortable feeling that comes with being a newbie, the type of slight sense of you get higher fairly rapidly and then you definately often get quite a bit worse, I’ve discovered. And that is truly, they name it the U-shaped studying curve of being a newbie. And if that’s solely taking place to you, I simply really feel like you may have a very completely different relationship to it versus if you’re making it occur.
Helen Tupper: I had somebody that acquired in contact with me yesterday on LinkedIn. So, we would executed a LinkedIn Reside they usually messaged me afterwards they usually mentioned, “Oh, what know-how do you utilize to do your LinkedIn Lives? It is completely different to the one which we do and I would like to provide it a go”. And I believe that was that individual, in all probability with out realizing that that is what they’re doing, however that was that individual discovering a small first, as a result of they’d seen one thing they do executed in a different way by us, they usually had been reaching out to attempt to be a newbie to be taught in a brand new approach. And to your level, it’s fairly exposing, as a result of that was a little bit of tech. However you are like, “Oh, I do not know what buttons to press, or I do not know methods to do it and I am in all probability going to make a mistake”. And being a newbie is not simple, however the extra that you simply do it, the extra open you’re to new studying, as a result of it is all simply much less daunting.
Sarah Ellis: So, we predict that is one to have a little bit of enjoyable with and we have provide you with Newbie Bingo. So, we’ll put this, I believe we’ll create this as type of a one-pager. So, in order for you a Newbie Bingo card to only use and cross off, as a result of that feels fairly enjoyable and satisfying to do, we’ll put that on-line. Clearly, we’ll do a hyperlink within the present notes with the standard good things.
Helen Tupper: And we’ll put it within the library as effectively. So, you understand earlier we talked about those who pre-order the e-book, we are going to put this as a one-pager within the lobster library as effectively.
Sarah Ellis: So, that is the place we have created some concepts. So, when you’re like, “Oh, I may do with a little bit of inspiration to get me began”. However clearly you may as well simply create your personal Newbie Bingo. Once more, fairly a enjoyable one to do perhaps with another person or perhaps to do as a staff. However the kinds of issues that you simply may need on there may very well be issues like, “I will have a curious profession dialog with somebody exterior of my organisation”. Possibly you’ve got by no means executed that earlier than. And I do know that individuals get nervous about doing these issues, as a result of I get WhatsApps from individuals going, “Oh, I’ve acquired a curious profession dialog with that individual. Have you learnt them? Something I can ask?” You possibly can sense the type of nervous anticipation of that second. So, perhaps it is one thing to do with conversations.
It may equally be in a special staff, if that felt prefer it’d be helpful for you. Possibly it may very well be about spending a day with a special staff. Like, may you spend a day shadowing? May you go to another person’s staff assembly? May you tackle a task that you do not do right now, the place you would be a newbie? So, that is likely to be main a staff assembly. Possibly that is main a staff away day, main a session, a studying session on Study Like a Lobster in your staff the subsequent time you are collectively. Possibly it is mentoring, mentoring somebody for the primary time, or perhaps being a mentee, both approach. May you be courageous and be a newbie round LinkedIn? Possibly that is about beginning to remark. That is being a newbie. You are similar to, “I’ve not executed that earlier than”. And when you’re something like me, each time I write something on LinkedIn, and that is the alternative to Helen, I am at all times like, “Oh, does that make sense?” and I actually overthink it.
Helen Tupper: However look how a lot individuals beloved your final put up. Sarah did a really pretty put up on LinkedIn, perhaps like every week in the past, about completely different individuals to comply with to assist your studying. And it acquired lots of love.
Sarah Ellis: Did it? I get a bit nervous about these issues.
Helen Tupper: It did get lots of love.
Sarah Ellis: So, that is positively instance of me being a newbie and pondering, “That is not one thing I usually do. How can I put up in a approach that works for me?” Or it may very well be one thing like asking for a LinkedIn advice. I believe in all probability the most effective ones in your Newbie Bingo are ones the place you possibly can start after which construct, I believe. As a result of generally, it is extra in regards to the newbie mindset, so that you’re simply doing one thing you’ve got not executed earlier than. And that is nice, that is factor to do. So, asking for a LinkedIn advice, nice, as a result of that takes a little bit of bravery, so that you’re stretching that braveness muscle. I believe in all probability even higher when you’re like, “Proper, I will be a newbie by way of, perhaps it is round networking”. After which, “Really, I will discover a small first, curious profession dialog with another person at my staff”. And perhaps your entire Newbie Bingo card is definitely themed round networking.
So, I believe you are able to do your Newbie Bingo card in a number of alternative ways. So, I may do an entire Newbie Bingo card simply round LinkedIn, like, “Oh, I will begin to put up, however then I will put up at the very least as soon as every week, I will begin commenting extra”, if I needed to try this. You can do an entire one round mentoring, you might do an entire one round AI. AI could be an awesome one for Newbie Bingo. Use our AI Abilities Dash as your place to begin. So, your very first thing in your Newbie Bingo card may simply be, “Full the AI Abilities Dash”. That is free, simply do this. After which, you might construct up that Newbie Bingo card throughout AI. I believe you might have lots of enjoyable with this, truly.
Helen Tupper: You possibly can have lots of enjoyable.
Sarah Ellis: The extra I discuss it, the extra I am like, “That may work, that may work”.
Helen Tupper: That was so humorous as a result of I used to be like, “Start and construct”, I used to be like, “That’s you pondering out loud”.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, that’s.
Helen Tupper: It simply goes proper full circle.
Sarah Ellis: That should go on the to-think listing.
Helen Tupper: Yeah, it must go on the to-think listing, as a result of we must always positively have a few of these begin-and-build little bingo playing cards for individuals to play with.
Sarah Ellis: I used to be additionally pondering then, “I have to create this to go on the library”.
Helen Tupper: Yeah, I used to be pondering the identical factor. We had been pondering out loud and quietly collectively.
Sarah Ellis: On the similar time.
Helen Tupper: On the similar time. Pricey me, we’re already lobsters. We’re like lobsters for all times.
Sarah Ellis: Lobster-like learners, that is our goal.
Helen Tupper: Lobster-like learners. Hopefully, we’ve got impressed you to be a lobster-like learner as effectively. Hopefully you possibly can hear in our voices that that is enjoyable. It is a enjoyable technique to be taught, it is a enjoyable technique to prepare your mind to be extra receptive to new data, it is a actually enjoyable factor to do it collectively. And whether or not that is like, as we mentioned, as a buddy or as a staff, I believe this simply makes it simpler for everyone to do. So, we are going to summarise all this for you so that you’ve it, take a look at the present notes that you’ve that. However please, please, please, if you need to be taught extra about studying like a lobster, If you wish to do this along with different individuals, then pre-order the e-book from wherever you get your e-book. And all it’s essential do is simply ship us the receipt for that. It may be a, no matter, the e-mail, simply ahead the e-mail onto hi there@learnlikealobster.com. We’ll then reply, we are going to ship you your hyperlink to the library. And as Sarah mentioned, when you do it by early October is it, like 1 October, I believe?
Sarah Ellis: Yeah.
Helen Tupper: In case you do it by then, there’s a particular factor for individuals who do it first, which can come within the put up to you.
Sarah Ellis: Do not give it away although, do not give it away.
Helen Tupper: So, if you need a little bit of lobster-mail, then get ordering rapidly, rapidly, rapidly, as a result of it is restricted by time for our earliest pre-orderers.
Sarah Ellis: And I’d say when you’re like, “I’ve not acquired the house for the library or that simply does not really feel proper for me”, pre-ordering books actually helps us. So, when you simply need to pre-order the e-book, I promise it would repay in February, and it’s a good way that you could assist us and Squiggly Careers and the work that we do. So, please do not feel like it’s a must to be part of the library. In case you’re tremendous up for it and you have the form of house and you are like, “Oh, yeah, I would love to try this”, nice. In case you simply pre-order it, we will likely be simply as grateful whether or not we see you within the library or not. However when you do, thanks. We do actually recognize it. We all know that it is a kind of humorous issues about publishing the place it is actually useful for us when you pre-order, however then you definately do have a little bit of a wait. However hopefully, you possibly can simply continue to learn with us by way of the podcast and the library.
Helen Tupper: And it will likely be well worth the wait.
Sarah Ellis: And it will likely be well worth the wait.
Helen Tupper: Thanks a lot for listening, everybody. We’ll be again with you subsequent week for one more episode.
Sarah Ellis: Bye, everyone.
Helen Tupper: Bye.
