00:00:00: Introduction
00:00:43: All about future potentialities
00:02:49: An AI immediate
00:05:39: A curious profession dialog device
00:08:04: A workforce train
00:10:16: Last ideas
Sarah Ellis: Hello, I am Sarah.
Helen Tupper: And I am Helen.
Sarah Ellis: And that is the Squiggly Careers podcast, and we’re on day 5, closing day of our Squiggly Careers Expertise Dash. If you’re beginning right here, it is also nice. However for plenty of individuals, we all know that you should have been working your manner by way of the dash. And so, firstly, properly accomplished for spending a while in your growth every single day. We all know it isn’t straightforward. We all know there are a great deal of calls for in your day. And simply as you had been about to get began, somebody may have requested you an annoying query. However the truth that you’ve caught with it, you must really feel actually good about.
Helen Tupper: And we are going to ship these individuals, everybody, right this moment additionally, you will get your —
Sarah Ellis: You get a badge.
Helen Tupper: You get a badge, “I’ve accomplished the Squiggly Expertise Dash”, badge. So, for those who put that on LinkedIn and tag us, we will rejoice your dash success.
Sarah Ellis: And keep in mind these each day summaries, I am certain you are actually used to them by now. In right this moment’s abstract, for instance, you will get an instance of a thoughts map, our first thoughts map, I feel, of the week; you will get a hyperlink for a device that Helen’s going to speak about; and a great deal of prompts, which once more, minimize and paste the prompts, use our immediate as a place to begin. And by now, possibly you possibly can simply use our immediate after which make it even higher for your self.
Helen Tupper: So, we’re speaking about future potentialities, so let’s simply discuss why this issues in a Squiggly Profession. Once we checked out careers like ladders, you mainly simply had a plan, you had been trying on the subsequent step, you were not actually trying a lot past that and also you positively weren’t trying in numerous instructions. On this planet that we’re working in right this moment, the place there’s a lot of change, a lot of uncertainty, that method is dangerous, and it would not show you how to together with your profession resilience. We do not need both of these issues for you. We wish you to have a lot of alternative, a lot of choices, so you’ve extra management in your profession, and that’s the reason future potentialities matter. It signifies that you can discover totally different instructions which you could develop in, it means which you could get extra curious and open about your alternatives and that simply provides you extra selection.
There’s additionally a helpful Squiggly stat right here to help this level, which is that individuals now have 10 to fifteen jobs on common of their working life, so a lot of totally different jobs in doubtlessly a lot of totally different firms, and our common profession is round 40 years. So, we’re working for an extended time, we’re having extra roles, and we would like you to have extra resilience. That is what this talent is all about.
Sarah Ellis: And also you need to create, not wait, in terms of your future potentialities. You understand, I feel we’re all responsible sooner or later in our Squiggly Careers of all of a sudden realising, “I need to do one thing totally different now”. After which, we have not likely been proactive or very intentional about it. After which, you default to, or simply begin making use of for jobs. And generally, you may be fortunate and also you apply for the precise one and all of it form of works out. However actually, in my very own profession, after I take into consideration the entire totally different squiggles and the strikes that I’ve made, the entire greatest ones have been fairly some time within the making. I’ve had curious profession conversations, I’ve explored totally different concepts, I’ve virtually been eager about it and appearing on it for some time.
Helen Tupper: Even this job, this was some time within the making for us.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah. So, an AI immediate to get you to zoom out. I feel we need to begin right here by not limiting ourselves, virtually ignoring constraints and eager about the artwork of the attainable. That is why I take pleasure in this part and I like thoughts maps. I am like, “Oh, what might be; what would possibly occur?” And so, your immediate right here is, give the AI a little bit of context about you, however keep in mind, do not share something actually private or particular person. So, do not say, “My identify is Sarah and that is my job at this firm”, extra like, “I am a finance supervisor in a big organisation within the retail sector”. So, particular sufficient, however with out being too private to you, “I am interested in the place my profession would possibly take me subsequent. Act as a Squiggly Profession mentor”. I went for mentor right this moment, barely totally different to educate, hopefully for a great cause, “Act as a Squiggly Profession mentor who’s labored in a lot of totally different roles and industries. Generate a thoughts map displaying me three apparent potentialities, three bold potentialities, three pivot potentialities, and three dream potentialities for my profession”. So, quite a bit, fairly a protracted immediate. After which it simply does it.
Helen Tupper: I imply, for those who had been doing that your self, that may take you a great, I imply, a great ten minutes, and it simply did it fairly rapidly for you.
Sarah Ellis: And what I appreciated about this was, I imply, you can use this to construct. So, what you can have accomplished was put within the concepts you’d already bought after which mentioned, “Give me some new concepts”, so ones you’d not already considered. Or you can use it as a place to begin, like a springboard. So, I feel you should use it in both manner. I like the actual fact it gave me mini definitions, which once more, I might not given it that, but it surely gave it again to me. So, it mentioned, “For bold potentialities, for instance, larger leaps however they’re nonetheless rooted in your strengths”. So, I used to be like, “Oh, I like that”, I like that little reminder that that is nonetheless about you and your strengths. It does offer you a visible, you possibly can obtain it as a PDF, you possibly can print it out. And it was particular about roles. An bold one, for instance, might be to maneuver into technique. I used to be like, “Oh, yeah”. I imply, I am not in finance for a begin, however I would not thoughts going to work in technique. It talked about dream potentialities. I believed, “Oh, that is fascinating. How has it determined what my desires are?”
Helen Tupper: Whose dream is that this? What dream did it offer you?
Sarah Ellis: Effectively, I imply, so one in every of them was founder, co-founder. I used to be like, “Oh, that is so good”, which I used to be like, “Oh, that is fascinating”, proper, as a result of these items do be taught, which, , scary/good. Artistic finance educator or coach. So, I used to be like, “Oh, it has realized about me, although I am not in finance”. After which, the opposite one was Head of Impression, social enterprise chief.
Helen Tupper: I feel you in all probability additionally would fairly like that.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, I imply I am unable to do the finance bit that I mentioned within the precise immediate, however I’d fairly like a few of these issues. So, I simply assume it is a nice strategy to get you began. And , generally the factor that we see is that the apparent potentialities usually are not all the time essentially the most motivating ones. So, this will get you past the apparent, it simply will get you into producing concepts, after which I feel you progress into like, “Proper, okay, so what now?”
Helen Tupper: And so, on the ‘so what now’, all these concepts about your potentialities, you actually need to put them into motion ultimately. And we all the time speak concerning the worth of curious profession conversations. So, the motion is not, “I will apply for a job”. The motion is, “I will go and be taught extra”. All the time let the educational lead you. And so, we regularly say, go and have curious profession conversations. Now the advantage of AI is you possibly can have a curious profession dialog with AI about one in every of your potentialities. So, the device that we performed with right here is Yoodli, and we’ll put the hyperlink to that within the Squiggly Profession abstract, so you possibly can simply click on by way of and provides it a go. There’s a web page in there the place you possibly can design your personal function play. Please don’t cringe on the phrase function play. Nobody has to see this, that is simply you. However you place the profile in.
So, I really did, the profile that I used right here was I mentioned, “I need to have a curious profession dialog with somebody in gross sales in Microsoft, about doubtlessly making a transfer in that course. I at present work in advertising and marketing and wish to practise my dialog abilities so I can be taught and make a great impression”. So, you are going to have to simply put in there, , possibly use Sarah’s immediate first, choose a type of potentialities that you just’re fascinated with, create a profile of an individual you need to speak to, and what it’s going to do is it’s going to generate you a job play. So, you’ll actually have an avatar. I had somebody referred to as Rebecca who works in gross sales.
Sarah Ellis: How was Rebecca?
Helen Tupper: She was nice.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, you mentioned this, you sounded such as you’d made pals with Rebecca.
Helen Tupper: It was so good. So, I used to be chatting to Rebecca and she or he was saying, “Oh, what’s it that pursuits you about gross sales? What abilities do you assume you can carry? What do you need to be taught? What different questions have you ever bought?” It was actually, actually helpful. Now, I do not assume that replaces assembly the actual Rebecca, as a result of the actual Rebecca, if there’s a actual Rebecca in gross sales at Microsoft, however the reason is, we talked yesterday within the Expertise Dash concerning the function of networking and the way that results in usually new alternatives. So, faux Rebecca just isn’t getting me a job within the gross sales workforce. Actual Rebecca would possibly, however this might give me the arrogance to have a fair higher dialog with the one that is definitely in gross sales. Actually give this a go. Additionally, it provides you suggestions. That is the good factor about this. And it provides you fairly clear suggestions. Like I bought, “Energy, Helen. You confirmed up with enthusiasm for exploring alternatives and engaged with the skilled and had related insights into their subject. Good job. Development areas: decelerate, sharpen factors. Some solutions felt a bit rushed or barely disjointed. Stability elaboration with a brevity. Deal with delivering concise, sure, impactful solutions”.
So, I feel it provides you suggestions in order that when you’ve the actual dialog, you possibly can present up much more successfully in it. And it is simply protected. It is a good, protected place to practise what may really feel a bit like a scary dialog.
Sarah Ellis: So, I feel it could both improve your confidence or it may simply be an ‘and’. I’ll have some curious profession conversations which are faux or follow ones, ‘and’ I’ll go and do the actual ones as properly. I had a play with it, since you had been very enthusiastic concerning the faux Rebecca, and I used to be like, I feel I might ask higher questions in my actual profession dialog due to the follow. So, I am already assured sufficient to have them, but it surely made me extra considerate.
Helen Tupper: Yeah, agreed.
Sarah Ellis: So, how may you discuss this collectively as a workforce? I feel we have got fairly a pleasant train right here, properly we loved doing it mainly. So, we had been pondering really, once you’re eager about potentialities, it is good to consider who’re your Squiggly Profession function fashions, so somebody who’s progressing in a manner that feels inspiring for you. And truly, speaking about that as a workforce I feel is very nice. It is very nice to listen to individuals’s examples of who they discover fascinating and galvanizing and what’s it about what they do. Who would you choose?
Helen Tupper: The primary individual that got here into my thoughts was Aviva Wittenberg-Cox.
Sarah Ellis: The good Aviva.
Helen Tupper: She’s good. And then you definitely simply go right into a ‘why’, “Why is it?” and I like the modifications that she’s making in each generational and gender range at work. She’s very beneficiant, so she makes use of her house, I feel, to help different individuals. And I really like that she wins, however she helps different individuals win with their work too, I really like that. What about you?
Sarah Ellis: Margaret Heffernan, long-time fan. And she or he’s been on the podcast as properly, mainly, as a result of I fangirled her till she got here on the podcast. And I feel the explanation I discover her an inspiring function mannequin is her credibility, her experience, she’s not afraid to share her factors of view. And once more, in all probability much like Aviva, I really feel like she simply needs the world of labor to be higher. And so, she’ll name out issues which are making it worse, however she’s additionally actually curious. She’s been working for a extremely very long time, and she or he’s simply stayed curious and related and resilient. And all the pieces she writes, I learn, and I feel, “Oh, I am a bit smarter as a result of I’ve frolicked along with her” and I feel that is a tremendous factor to encourage.
Helen Tupper: It is a good chat to have collectively as a workforce. So, that’s the finish. Yay! Effectively accomplished for sprinting! Effectively accomplished. It is not straightforward to decide to your growth and for those who’ve bought this far on the dash, that may be a dedication to your self and your studying and we actually hope that it has been helpful. Vitality and helpful are two of our values so tell us if it is accomplished that for you. Please share your badge, you must rejoice this with delight, just remember to keep linked for Superb If, as a result of we might be doing one other dash, and only a huge thanks from us for being a part of the neighborhood and your entire help and love of Squiggly Careers as properly.
Sarah Ellis: In fact, please share the dash with different individuals. In case you fancy giving us a score or a evaluation, these issues actually assist us. So, for those who’ve bought time for a five-minute favour right this moment, that is a method you possibly can say thanks to us.
Helen Tupper: Thanks a lot, all people.
Sarah Ellis: Bye.


