00:00: Introduction
09:45: We’ve created a customized GPT that will help you make introductions to folks
13:09: Method #1: The profit introduction
14:59: The breakthrough (problem-led) introduction
17:46: Method #3: The eagerness introduction
21:41: Method #4: The energy introduction
26:50: Method #5: The mission (or ambition) introduction
30:17: The ability of an incredible follow-up query
34:23: We might like to know the place you hearken to the Squiggly Careers podcast
Helen Tupper: Hello, I am Sarah.
Sarah Ellis: And I am Helen.
Helen Tupper: And that is the Squiggly Careers podcast, the place each week we borrow some brilliance from an individual, a spot, even an object now and again, and we flip that curiosity into concepts for motion for you and your Squiggly profession in a manner that we hope is beneficial and related wherever you’re and no matter you do.
Sarah Ellis: And so right now it’s my flip to borrow a little bit of brilliance and use it to spark our dialog. And I’ve obtained an individual occasions a spot. So the individual is Rebecca Okamoto and the place is Ted. And we will speak about her new discuss, which known as easy methods to Introduce Your self and Get Employed. And I noticed it, I believe. I do not know what electronic mail got here into my inbox, however I clicked for 2 causes.
Helen Tupper: One, are you making use of for some jobs?
Sarah Ellis: And that is how I inform you no. However as we are going to discuss, I do assume you’re all the time. You could be not all the time attempting to get employed, however I believe you’re all the time attempting to get heard. And I believe introductions are fairly an enormous a part of that. So I. I believe I used to be. I do not know. I’ve not obtained a brand new job in thoughts, simply in case you are apprehensive, however I assumed the title was intriguing. Additionally, I checked out how many individuals have watched that TED Speak in fairly a brief period of time, and it’s. It was launched 4 months in the past and already it has had 1.7 million views, which is kind of. Yeah, it is fairly good going, I believe, for a TED Speak. So clearly, I imply, it is a good discuss, however. However I might argue that the subject is an effective discuss. There’s a number of sensible stuff in it. However I believe clearly most of these views are. Trigger folks have clicked due to the title and it is clearly a subject that appeals. So I assumed on that foundation it is most likely attention-grabbing to our viewers and one thing that we should always speak about a bit extra.
Helen Tupper: Effectively, you made me check out a brand new GPT by 8am this morning, so. Oh, sure. It clearly piqued your curiosity sufficient to create one thing and to be like, you’ll want to do this out earlier than this afternoon. Effectively, yeah.
Sarah Ellis: Okay. Effectively, that is really an excellent lead into what folks can anticipate from listening right now. So we’re going to discuss in regards to the 5 formulation that Rebecca shares in her TED talks for easy methods to get launched. And so we’ll speak about some widespread errors folks make with introductions. We’ll undergo the formulation and now we have each utilized them to ourselves. However within the means of doing that, as Sarah stated, I constructed a little bit customized GPT as a result of I completely love doing these. After all I did. I really like doing it. And it’s primarily based on the content material of the TED Speak and it’ll take the 5 formulation for introducing your self, it’ll ask you 5 questions and it’ll then generate you 5 personalised introductions. So are they good? In all probability not. I nonetheless assume you would possibly need to tweak a few of them, nevertheless it does get you there faster. And so we are going to put the hyperlink to the ChatGPT within the present notes. It should even be within the one web page abstract that we use for each of the. Each considered one of our podcast episodes. And if you cannot discover it, simply message us, Helen and sarahquigglycareers.com, however it’s a very fast manner, I believe, of placing what we will speak about right now into motion.
Helen Tupper: Yeah, I used to be fascinated with this as a result of I get nervous assembly new folks. As soon as I’ve met somebody as soon as, then I am completely wonderful. However for the primary time is certainly simply. It isn’t. I do not dread it, it is positively not that degree of hysteria, nevertheless it positively makes my coronary heart go sooner, you already know, like, I might virtually, like, discover a little bit of, like, adrenaline or type of simply needing to take a deep breath. Like, I might by no means need to really feel rushed going into assembly somebody for the primary time. And I used to be considering in these type of introductions, which might be those that I do essentially the most. So via our work, I am assembly somebody for the primary time. And to your level, I need to be heard. I suppose. We additionally need to be employed as an organization. Proper. So it is not like I am asking them for a job, however we’re asking them to associate with us. So it is only a totally different body on actually the identical factor. And I am all the time so conscious of I need to make an excellent impression, I kind of need to do wonderful, if proud. So I actually imagine in what we do. So I do not doubt kind of the substance that sits behind what I’ll say, however I might hate the thought of like, that not coming throughout in a manner that appears like, credible or helpful. So once I was going via this and once I was doing the. Utilizing your GPT, like, that was positively my filter, was virtually like utilizing a intro to make an excellent impression. Like, how do these two issues come collectively?
Sarah Ellis: Yeah.
Helen Tupper: And in addition I believe everybody has gremlins. Do you reckon folks have. I used to be like, oh, I’m wondering what the connection is between this specific context and other people’s confidence. Gremlins. As a result of you already know, a great deal of folks’s most typical one is judgement or I’m wondering in the event that they like me or what are they fascinated with me? And I used to be questioning whether or not you are worried about that much more like in this sort of context. I positively. That is not even considered one of my gremlins. However it’s the one time that gremlin kind of ever seems for me is assembly somebody for the primary time and I will be like, do they assume I’m boring? Do they assume I am like, too enthusiastic? Oh, have I. Have I. Have I not given them sufficient alternative to talk? Have I dominated the dialog? I believe various that chatter that, that we have talked about earlier than goes via my head, significantly on this state of affairs. So I used to be like, that was. That was the opposite little dot I linked as I used to be studying via this.
Sarah Ellis: It is attention-grabbing as a result of I do not assume I am nervous assembly new folks, however I do not assume. Or perhaps I believe I might get higher at introducing myself. I do not assume I am unhealthy, however I believe I might get higher. And this entire podcast is, in prepping for it has made me assume. I do not assume I am very constant in how I introduce myself.
Helen Tupper: And.
Sarah Ellis: And I believe that may have an effect on. I do not know, I simply do not. I believe I simply meet folks and go, hello, I am Helen.
Helen Tupper: I do.
Sarah Ellis: And I am going to say various things to totally different folks. Whereas I believe what. What we will discuss via is sort of being a bit extra strategic in regards to the impression you need to create and the way your introduction means that you can create that. And what I actually like in regards to the 5 formulation that we will speak about is I do not assume all of them are proper. I believe it’s best to. I believe it’s best to generate. I believe it’s best to use the ChatGPT factor to generate them so you’ll be able to see. However a few of them, I am like, I might by no means say that. And. And you may see that a few of them are round strengths and fervour, and I believe I am more likely to say these. However even that’s simply attention-grabbing. And I believe we’ll simply begin saying that persistently. After which I believe you’ll be able to most likely change into extra assured at introducing your self since you already know what you are going to say at the beginning, which signifies that then you definately then simply get into the remainder, the remainder of the dialog. And these, by the best way, are designed to result in a dialog. I believe that is what Rebecca says within the TED Speak, that making an excellent introduction is the distinction between somebody saying Good to satisfy you on the finish of it. So I type of do mine, simply go, oh, good to satisfy you. Like, finish of chat. And somebody’s saying, oh, that is attention-grabbing. Inform me extra. So the best is you’ve this, like, designed introduction that you could type of depend on as a result of it feels such as you. And also you’re assured in it. That then leads to a dialog relatively than somebody simply transferring on to the following individual.
Helen Tupper: I used to be fascinated with this as a result of that. That time actually stood out to me. And I had some suggestions just lately from considered one of our studying companions about how. Effectively, I had launched myself to any individual new of their firm. So I used to be actually happy with that. However then I used to be reflecting on it in relation to this and I used to be considering, are you aware what? I believe I do? I do not assume I get to inform me extra. I believe I inform them all the things. So. As a result of what she stated to me was, you do an incredible job of storytelling. So I believe I do the. I can, like, describe the storey and, like, why we do what we do. And if any individual has the kindness, I suppose, and the persistence to listen to me out, then I believe I am. I am convincing. You recognize, it is like. It is a. It is, you already know, it is like, attention-grabbing to hearken to. There are totally different bits that folks can hook onto. There’s a number of attention-grabbing type of issues in there. However it’s not. It isn’t like a brief, succinct introduction to make it, you already know. And sometimes that’s the. That’s your. That is extra widespread, I believe, the place you. You’ve got obtained. You are in a gathering, there’s six of you. You all must go round and simply type of shortly say, like, who you’re, like, why you there, what you do. And people ones I discover a lot tougher. I am like, properly, should you’ve given, you already know, like, usually it’s tougher to be shorter, you already know, to say issues in a very easy manner. I believe if I can inform a storey to make a primary impression, then I am wonderful. And I believe I did this in interviews as properly. Once I did much more interviews, if I had that type of an interview, I. I believe I got here out of it rather well. If I had an interview the place, you already know, like, there wasn’t a lot room across the edges, it was very prescriptive. I then assume, I discover that is tougher. Trigger it is simply not as pure, my model. So I am like. I do not assume anybody has ever stated, inform me extra to me, such as you’ve informed me Sufficient. Yeah.
Sarah Ellis: And transfer on.
Helen Tupper: I believe extra possible that. Extra possible that.
Sarah Ellis: Effectively, perhaps simply to type of body these formulation a little bit bit. She does speak about Rebecca within the TED Speak. These are 20 phrases or fewer, so they’re brief. And I do not. I do not assume that’s proper for each state of affairs. You recognize, really, I believe in an interview, I’d. I’d really feel a bit abrupt if I did that, like I do most likely need to do, as a result of I am attempting to create a little bit of. A bit of little bit of connection. However I believe if you are going to an occasion and also you’re assembly somebody fairly shortly for the primary time, I believe you need to get to dialog fairly shortly. Sarah, I believe your factor is a very good level. Like should you’re in a room, you already know, the around the room factor.
Helen Tupper: Yeah.
Sarah Ellis: You positively do not need to storytell there as a result of it is. It is kind of egocentric, is not it, to make use of time in that manner? Or one that’s most likely particular to Sarah and. However perhaps different folks might make a reference to. What they do is. Generally we’ll be on another person’s podcast and so they’ll say earlier than we kick off, helen, introduce your self. And that I do know, is that they’ve already. They need. It is their dialog, they need to lead it. I should not be dominating an excessive amount of at the beginning, in order that’s obtained to be fairly a fast factor. So for what we’re considering of, to ensure this feels helpful for you, I might take into consideration what are the moments the place you comparatively shortly must introduce your self and your work to any individual else after which which of the 5 formulation we will discuss via really feel most related to you and the way you need to come throughout?
Helen Tupper: Yeah, spot the state of affairs. That helps me spot the state of affairs.
Sarah Ellis: So lets undergo the 5 formulation? I am going to say what it’s after which we’ll.
Helen Tupper: Ought to I get my GPT prepared? Will we. Will we try this as we go?
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, we will try this.
Helen Tupper: I believe I am simply so happy with myself that I’ve carried out it.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah. So simply on the 5 questions that GPT will ask you, it’s going to ask you a little bit bit about who’re you probably to make introductions to? Like, what’s the work that you just do, what the strengths you need to stand out. It will ask you all these kinds of inquiries to generate this for you. And so Sarah and I’ve already carried out that to have the ability to offer you our examples. So components primary known as the profit introduction. So the components right here is I assist insert your who obtain. Insert your what. Okay, so that you hear fairly easy is a very brief, easy. It is principally who do you assist to realize what? So Sarah, what was your, what did it generate for you there?
Helen Tupper: I assist senior leaders develop their folks’s efficiency by making growth sensible, related and owned by people.
Sarah Ellis: Good, good. And to be trustworthy, Sarah and mines are most likely going to be fairly related as a result of we’re most likely just about do the identical job. I believe I went a little bit bit broader on my who as a result of I obtained, I assist senior leaders in HR and L and D construct studying cultures the place folks take possession of their profession growth. How do you, what have been your reflections in your, in your type of introduction response?
Helen Tupper: I might by no means say that one.
Sarah Ellis: Inform me why.
Helen Tupper: As a result of I did not just like the emphasis on senior leaders as a result of I used to be like, properly, really we imagine in type of democratising growth developments for everyone. So I can not think about ever saying these phrases out loud to anybody like, oh, properly, we assist senior leaders. And I, yeah, it felt not as inclusive as I believe I wish to really feel. The bits I did like was sensible and related. Like I believe I do use these phrases on a regular basis and I take advantage of the phrase helpful lots, which wasn’t in there however, however for me it simply felt maybe simply not heat sufficient or human sufficient. So I, I, that one, I, I, I did not join with as a lot as among the others. How about you?
Sarah Ellis: Effectively, my reflection on it was as a result of it requested. I even have just a few totally different folks I make introductions to, so I’d want some totally different statements as a result of typically I’m introducing myself, I’m introducing myself to senior leaders as a result of that is who would possibly log out among the programmes that you just run and typically I am, I do not know, introducing myself on a stage to people who find themselves within the squidly profession group. So I do not know if I might discover a common one for each, however I did assume, oh, that is extra tailor-made to at least one a part of my work. And only a reflection on what Sarah stated, I’ve educated the GPT. As soon as it is, as soon as it asks you 5 questions and it generates them, I’ve educated it to finish with a query again of like, is there something you alter? So it is, should you type of, should you go, oh, it is not heat sufficient for me otherwise you, on the finish of it, you’ll be able to then try this and it’ll, it’ll then regenerate them. So I do assume the primary move is simply so that you can take a look at and critique after which if you wish to, if you wish to make it much more personalised you’ll be able to.
Helen Tupper: You can provide it a bit of additional. Yeah. As a result of mine gave me a suggestion that I disagreed with.
Sarah Ellis: What’s your suggestion? Oh, are we allowed to, you already know.
Helen Tupper: As soon as we undergo, I am going to inform you which one. However then I used to be like, oh, no, that is a tease. Or finish the advice.
Sarah Ellis: Do not agree with. Have you learnt the place?
Helen Tupper: I assumed that first one could possibly be good, although, and I questioned whether or not this might be true for us, as a result of I positively see it with different folks is, you already know, if you end up making introductions, you already know, like, there you have been speaking about on different folks’s behalf. So for example somebody we work with an organization, I believe they need to know one other firm. As a result of I am like, oh, they may be useful, you already know, having the ability to say, oh, I believe these folks, that is the who might assist you to. As a result of that is kind of what they do in a very clear and brief manner. And typically I’ve given suggestions to folks I do know who I do know do actually good work, however I battle to explain, like, who they’re and what they do. And I used to be considering, I’m wondering if folks ever have that problem with us since you need folks to have the ability to simply suggest you, you already know, so we. We all know, for instance, that typically folks simply describe us as like, they’re the Squiggly folks.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, so true.
Helen Tupper: And we all know, we, like, I’ve seen these as a result of typically, you already know, you find yourself seeing the emails or no matter. So that you typically see one thing like, oh, you would possibly know them as just like the creators of Squiggly Careers, or they’re the individuals who got here up with Squiggly Careers. Um, and. After which it is. So that usually helps us, I believe, the type of. The Squiggly Careers idea and the actual fact we got here as much as that and that has had a ripple impact that is helpful. However I’m wondering then whether or not then folks persistently know, like, the what. Like perhaps what we are able to do for organisations. As a result of really we do not speak about that as a lot. It is fairly totally different for various firms. So I believe perhaps there’s something within the, you already know, just like the who and the what, however maybe extra for. I used to be considering for written who introductions relatively than stuff you say out loud.
Sarah Ellis: Like so kind of profit introduction, however brackets by suggestion, like so how folks.
Helen Tupper: Can say prefer it.
Sarah Ellis: Okay, let’s do the second then. So that is the breakthrough introduction and it is a bit of a construct on the one which we simply talked about. So I assist who. So your target market. I assist who obtain what. So, to this point, a lot like the primary one. However the subsequent bit is an attention-grabbing construct with out. And that is the place you place a damaging consequence in. So, you already know, with out taking on a number of time, with out growing the price of what. No matter that’s, issues. However typically for the breakthrough, then it is like, what’s totally different about you? What’s totally different about the best way that you just do it or the best way that you just work? So what did you get on this one? What was the. What was the. How did it change?
Helen Tupper: First bit was similar. I assist senior leaders enhance folks’s efficiency with out growth feeling like one other HR initiative nobody owns. In order that was the. With out it.
Sarah Ellis: Effectively, once more, similar bit. Firstly, my with out was. So I assist senior leaders construct studying cultures of individuals personal their careers with out considering that development solely means promotion.
Helen Tupper: Okay, I might say that one. I do say that this the one that you just obtained.
Sarah Ellis: I do not.
Helen Tupper: I do not ever. I imply, I do not ever say to HR folks with out it feeling like one other HR initiative. As a result of I am like, I imply, that feels a bit harsh. Would not it simply really feel brutal, what I do say. And I imply, I’ve stated this just lately. You recognize, typically with our work, I’ll say to folks, you already know what we do not need this to be is one other initiative that type of seems and disappears. Like, we do not need squiggly careers to be a flash within the pan, for instance. And I am going to say that about us. So I can see the place it was attempting to get to what I like about this one, however I believe I might name it one thing totally different, is you’re recognizing an issue that may get folks to nod. And I do assume folks connect with issues. So once we say to folks, development’s gotta imply greater than promotion. Now everybody’s like, positively. If I say, you already know, we do not need this simply to be a programme for this 12 months, and it is gone the 12 months after as a result of we’ll have put a great deal of effort in. So we wish it to type of transcend that. Everybody goes, yeah, progress. As a result of we have all carried out these issues, proper? We have carried out these issues that did not final so long as we wished them to. So I believe having. Having an issue that you’re excited by or a problem that you just’re grappling with or consideration as a part of your introduction, I believe is attention-grabbing. I simply do not know if I would describe it as like a breakthrough introduction. To me, it is extra of like an issue introduction.
Sarah Ellis: I desire this one to the primary one. In case your purpose is for somebody to say, inform me extra, I believe you’re Extra more likely to get that one with this one. As a result of persons are like, oh, such as you stated, they establish with the issue that you just’re fixing and so they type of need to go, properly, how do you try this?
Helen Tupper: How do you do it? Yeah, that will be like, how?
Sarah Ellis: Effectively, I need to know that.
Helen Tupper: How do you do it?
Sarah Ellis: Is most definitely to be the response there. Okay, in order that one perhaps will get a sort of a better ranking from us. The third components then is the eagerness introduction. And once I was kind of studying about this, this ardour introduction is especially good for folks. I do not know, perhaps they do not need to lead with their position, perhaps as a result of perhaps that zeal is not really the job that they do proper now. It is one thing I am considering aspect undertaking. Helen and Sarah, you already know, once we have been doing jobs that weren’t, you already know. Effectively, I used to be about to say, not we’re passionate, we have been keen about our jobs, however we did this on the aspect.
Helen Tupper: However perhaps not fairly as passionate as we have been about studying and growth.
Sarah Ellis: And we would have been introducing ourselves to people who find themselves extra linked to our aspect undertaking. And so our day job was much less related than the one which we have been doing to assist different folks develop.
Helen Tupper: This one additionally made me assume of people that on LinkedIn describe themselves via their ardour both, like, they’ve modified it in order that they have not obtained a job title in the identical manner, and so they’ve they utilizing an outline which tells you what they actually care about, and so they try this of their summaries as properly. So again to this does not all the time must be issues that you just say. This one struck me as, once more, one thing you would possibly need to use on LinkedIn, relying on, you already know, for no matter cause, if you cannot select your title or you do not join along with your title, and clearly we all the time need abilities to be greater than titles. I felt like this was a unique manner into speaking about, you already know, the issues that you just care about.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah, I really like that. And once we’re fascinated with fast introductions, like we stated at the beginning, just like the going across the room, I believe LinkedIn, if somebody’s going in your web page, that’s successfully a fast introduction. And so really having. Having this on the high is. I might need a relook at mine. So how can we get to this one, although? The components for this one is I am keen about insert the factor that you just’re keen about to realize what your viewers values. And so I am going to perhaps offer you mine right here and see what. How totally different right here. So I had. I am keen about serving to Folks construct assured, versatile careers to realize success in a world the place work retains altering. And my, my reflections on this have been. I believe I might. I, I appreciated the components. I fairly just like the components, however I assumed I might most likely write that one higher myself. I felt like. Or most likely some phrases I take advantage of, you already know, as a result of ardour is so private. I felt like, oh, you are not going to have the ability to get, get these phrases out of me nearly as good as I can get them. So I just like the components and it was a begin, however I might positively need to make this one sound a bit extra like me.
Helen Tupper: Effectively, I believe my drawback was I’m by no means going to say the phrases I am keen about. What would you say as an alternative? I imply, something however that.
Sarah Ellis: However okay, I get pleasure from doing what’s kind.
Helen Tupper: Of like going, oh, I really like. You are like, properly, I am by no means going to. I, I do not like these type of lofty statements. I do not take into consideration, about like work in that manner. So I might simply by no means say out loud to somebody I am actually passionate. I simply, I simply would not. Possibly that is additionally a little bit of like a British cultural factor. However I used to be like, I might say.
Sarah Ellis: I actually care about. In truth, I’ve stated that to folks. I say, positively say I actually care about democratising growth. I actually care. I’m going out studying with out ranges of labor. I positively say that I do care.
Helen Tupper: I am attempting to work out whether or not I might ever really say these. Simply attempting to work out what you’d say.
Sarah Ellis: I do not know this.
Helen Tupper: So that is what, that is why I struggled with this one as a result of I used to be like, what would I really, you already know, just like the phrases that I might say in actual life. And sure, this one induced just a few issues for me. I imply, it did not get it utterly improper. I imply it talked about, I am keen about lifelike profession growth. I used to be like, that sounds a bit extra like me lifelike. After which it went again to the senior leaders factor once more. However I believe as a result of I obtained caught up in like ardour and introduction and I used to be like, oh, no, that is simply jarred a bit. Yeah, it simply jars and one thing I can not connect with, you already know, like, should you get to the purpose the place you are like, it is by no means, it is by no means going to be just right for you. So, yeah, I crossed that one off. I did not prefer it.
Sarah Ellis: So Sarah did not like the eagerness curiosity. I, I did not thoughts it, however like I did. Of the three, I assumed the primary one felt too blunt. So the profit and the breakthrough felt the most effective to this point. The eagerness, I did not thoughts, however wants a bit extra work. Let’s check out the fourth.
Helen Tupper: Let’s attempt the fourth.
Sarah Ellis: So this one, the fourth components is the energy introduction. Let’s have a look at if this one resonates with you. So this one begins with. I am recognized for. Insert what you all need to be recognized for to realize. Insert the end result that you really want somebody to get from the factor you need to be recognized for. So what did. What did you get right here?
Helen Tupper: Effectively, I additionally don’t love saying I am recognized for. I believe it sounds actually conceited. Oh, like I am recognized for this. I hope you all respect this. That is what I am recognized for. In order that bit, I did not like that bit.
Sarah Ellis: No, you’ll be able to inform Rebecca.
Helen Tupper: Effectively, I imply, I do assume it is vital for folks to know what they need to be recognized for. You recognize, once we speak about strengths and intent versus influence, it was simply the thought.
Sarah Ellis: If you happen to meet somebody, say, hello, I am Helen.
Helen Tupper: I am recognized for.
Sarah Ellis: I am recognized.
Helen Tupper: So this one, by this level it was like 8:15 and I obtained a espresso. So my vital considering mind had kicked in and I used to be getting a bit extra crit as I used to be going via.
Sarah Ellis: Let’s have a look at what it generated and let’s have a look at if I could make it sound extra such as you.
Helen Tupper: I am recognized for making profession growth helpful and related. So senior leaders see actual efficiency enchancment from their folks.
Sarah Ellis: Oh, properly, I imply, I do know you do not just like the senior chief factor, however in a single context of our companies, I really actually like a number of that.
Helen Tupper: Yeah, I just like the phrases helpful and related. I believe I put these into the.
Sarah Ellis: And I like folks and efficiency. It is clearly not simply what we’re about, however I do assume, you already know, I do assume should you make careers extra interesting for folks as a result of they’ve extra alternatives, they. That pays off in engagement, retention, suggestion, a number of which I believe translate to efficiency. So I do. I do imagine it.
Helen Tupper: Yeah. I believe I might all the time really, funnily sufficient, need to zoom out a bit extra, which is barely extra ardour territory to speak about squiggly careers actually early on, if I am ever introducing myself, I believe as a result of squiggly careers is the a. The factor that typically folks say inform me extra as a result of they’ve not heard about it or typically it is a actual bonus for me. If they’ve heard about it. Nice, as a result of then they only begin asking questions and then you definately’re kind of. You’ve got created a connection. So I usually assume I might begin, you already know, I believe the strengths one feels a bit an excessive amount of about me, you already know, versus I type of need to speak about one thing that I do care about and I am happy with, which is that this like the thought and the idea of squiggly careers which I then assume now we have made that helpful and related for folks and firms. However I believe beginning off with me simply feels a bit like oh, hey, I am assembly you. Let me inform you how nice I’m. And that made me a bit uncomfortable. What did you say?
Sarah Ellis: Effectively, like I stated, it stated the stated I am named for turning profession growth to sensible on a regular basis studying to realize actual development managers can really ship. So once more, I do not, I do not the phrases are proper for me, however right here. However I might say I am recognized for power. Like if I really thought I do just like the components. So And I might say that I might say I am recognized for power, which helps. That is why I might relatively than say to realize, I would most likely say which helps to have interaction folks in studying so they’re extra more likely to take motion. In order that’s. I, I imagine that and I believe I might say it in order that’s a.
Helen Tupper: Higher manner of doing it. You recognize, simply writing that down as you have been doing that. So you are like if, should you, should you do it that manner that you just simply described. As a result of then I might get to, in my, in my head first. You get to, oh, properly, I am recognized for concepts that helps me to make profession growth helpful and that folks can then flip that profession growth into motion for his or her development or no matter it may be. I wonder if it’s a must to do it as like a, virtually a two stage course of. So really listening to you going via this and I’ve not watched her discuss, however I do know that you’ve got. I really feel just like the components will get you the information, you already know, just like the, properly, what are you recognized for? How do you utilize that? What’s your who and what’s your what? After which you’ll be able to flip it into like your model. Whereas clearly what we have carried out for the primary one is it is then simply kind of spat out the. Utilizing these actual phrases. However I believe most likely the usefulness right here comes from, for every of those formulation. Truly are you able to reply these questions? As a result of I believe all of them are useful to know the reply. It creates readability, proper? Figuring out the reply to every of them. And then you definately’ve simply obtained to show it into just like the phrases that work, that be just right for you relatively than going, oh, I do not just like the strengths one as a result of it is a bit ego y, which is type of the place I went first. If you happen to simply really go along with what would the solutions be? Then I believe you are able to do one thing with it.
Sarah Ellis: I usually assume you are coming at it, however I do assume, you already know, when issues jar with you, you already know, you are like, oh, I do not like that phrase. I all the time assume that is a helpful factor to pause on and go, oh, why do not I prefer it?
Helen Tupper: Why not?
Sarah Ellis: Which is totally legitimate that folks can like and never like what, no matter they need. However what would I say as an alternative? You recognize? So I believe it is virtually helpful to seek out the issues that you just like. Oh, I positively would not say that. However then to kind of, like, work out what’s. Why is it uncomfortable? What might. What might higher sound like? So we have now obtained yet one more. We have got our last. Our fifth components that you should use to introduce your self, which is the mission components. This one sounds type of huge.
Helen Tupper: Let’s have a look at.
Sarah Ellis: Let’s have a look at what you assume. So the mission components begins with, I am on a mission to. I can not look forward to Sarah’s ideas on this one. I am on a mission to. After which insert what you are working in direction of to realize, after which no matter your viewers values. And so I obtained right here, I am on a mission to interchange outdated profession ladders with squiggly profession techniques to realize expertise, possession and momentum at scale. And I used to be like, oh, it is the primary time I considered squiggly profession system. I by no means. I by no means used that phrase. I used to be like, what does. What might that imply? Was my thought. However I fairly appreciated expertise, possession and momentum at scale. I used to be like, there’s one thing in that. I tweak it a bit extra. However I fairly. I fairly just like the succinctness, the scalingness. There is a little bit of power in that that I believe I might work with. Would I say that assertion? Possibly not a model of it, although?
Helen Tupper: Yeah, properly, I suppose that is the purpose. As we’re going via this, you do not have to take it actually. You do not then go and must say that actual assertion. Like, I do not say I am on a mission, however once I’m describing squiggly profession as an incredible. If I do say ambition, which is kind of shut. So usually once I’m introducing us and Helen and I hardly ever do that collectively, so Helen’s like, oh, attention-grabbing. If I am introducing us to, like, a brand new potential studying associate someplace within the World, I’ll say in order an organization, we’re an ambition to make squiggly careers higher for everybody. And like, then I am going to say, and what which means virtually, I believe that is how I usually comply with that up. And what which means virtually is about, you already know, serving to folks to study as they go. Actually serving to folks with, like, how they’ll take possession for his or her profession growth, making development greater than promotion. That is the place I believe I most likely, like interchangeably say various things after that bit, however I just about. However I do say that first bit. So although should you simply stated to me mission, I might have gone, oh, no, that feels a bit too lofty. However yeah, I do say ambition. Funnily sufficient, that is not what the GPT obtained me to. But additionally that is partly due to what I put into it. So I used to be considering you can return as a result of this took. It is actually, actually quick to do. The GPT was. I did it actually shortly. And so I believe you can additionally do it from just a few totally different angles and clearly you’d get some fairly totally different prompts again in return. And in addition, if I checked out my LinkedIn, like, I do use these phrases, I believe most likely the mission one is definitely most likely closest to among the issues that I might really say.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah.
Helen Tupper: So it is not the advice that I obtained on the finish.
Sarah Ellis: Okay, we’re approaching to your suggestion. I actually like your mission to ambition swap. I believe I really feel extra snug saying my ambition or ambition is that simply. That feels higher than mission. Yeah.
Helen Tupper: And in addition I believe it is good to be bold. In order that’s, you already know, that is a contentious phrase. So a few of you may be listening and be like, oh, I do not. I do know that some folks do not just like the phrase ambition.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah.
Helen Tupper: And may really feel fairly uncomfortable with it. However I believe I’m. I’m snug with it and I. I’m bold and I need wonderful if to be bold. So I believe since you imagine in it, you’ll be able to say it with confidence and credibility. You are like, yeah, that’s our ambition. And do I believe we’ll ever be carried out, like, no. However do I believe we are going to all the time hold striving to get nearer and nearer to that ambition? That is once I really feel like I might most likely get fairly enthusiastic and begin telling a number of folks about squiggly careers for a very long time.
Sarah Ellis: So I need to finish with Rebecca’s recommendation to ask a query and comply with up. So that you type of introduce your self utilizing a model of considered one of these formulation and then you definately ask a Query. However earlier than we try this, I need to hear. As a result of it’s constructed. If you happen to do select to make use of a GPT, it’s constructed to present you a suggestion. And I am very intrigued by what Sarah disagreed with. Go on, what did it say?
Helen Tupper: Effectively, mine stated to make use of the breakthrough introduction.
Sarah Ellis: Oh, okay.
Helen Tupper: Which, with what it wrote, clearly I am by no means going to say to hr. I am by no means going to criticise HR immediately in that manner. That does not really feel like a wise. A wise factor to do. However fascinated with it, if I took away precisely what it had written and went again to, like, the components, I’m very drawn to fixing issues, recognizing issues, being very clear about issues that aren’t working, going properly, like, let’s, let us take a look at these and let’s have a look at what we are able to do in a different way. Like, I like constraint considering. I believe it lets you be, you already know, curious and inventive. So really, it most likely is the world that I am most like, excited by. I believe I take advantage of the Ambition Mission one essentially the most, like, in the meanwhile. So I believe most likely initially once I learn it, I used to be like, oh, that feels actually distant. However really, having talked it via, I am like, really, perhaps not. It most likely is essentially the most like me. What did you get?
Sarah Ellis: I really cannot bear in mind, to be trustworthy. And I would must. I would have to have a look at it and distract myself on this dialog. I did not. Clearly nothing that was so compelling that it made me bear in mind it. However my reflections on it are. My high three are the breakthrough one. I fairly like, to your level, the issue fixing. I do just like the strengths one. If I am simply kind of introducing myself. And I do just like the mission, which I am now going to name the ambition ones, they’re my high three. Three. And my reflection is I might use these in very totally different conditions. So if we’re speaking to firms and we’re principally speaking about how we will help them with our work, I would go breakthrough. If I am in an enormous, like a stagey second or I am on a podcast or one thing like that, I might use the ambition one. Like, you already know, if folks have been saying, inform us a bit extra about you and your organization. I try this one. And if folks have been attempting to get to know me personally, like, oh, like, inform me a bit extra about you, then I would most likely do the strengths one. So I believe. However I believe having them written, you already know, simply confidence, readability and consistency. If I obtained these written with the phrases that I actually appreciated, I believe it could. I would really feel I Do not know. I would really feel like I would carried out myself justice in these conditions.
Helen Tupper: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also you stated she recommends asking a query.
Sarah Ellis: Yeah. So once more, again to. You are introducing your self to create a connection that leads to a dialog. So in case you are simply introducing your self, somebody say oh, that is good, and so they stroll away.
Helen Tupper: Who?
Sarah Ellis: It is type of, you already know, we have not fairly obtained to love the inform me thing more. So a strategy to do it’s as soon as you have carried out your introduction, bear in mind these are brief introductions. We will ask a comply with up query which might both be fairly a generic one, so how are you discovering the occasion? Or what’s it that you just do? So one thing fairly generic. Or it could possibly be particular to your introduction. So mine may be how are you supporting profession growth in in the meanwhile? Or I’d say, what issues do you assume you have obtained with development in your organisation?
Helen Tupper: Yeah.
Sarah Ellis: And so that you shortly join what you have talked about to them. So it drives a dialog. And once more, I do not assume I’ve thought consciously about fast introduction, comply with up query to create connection. I do not assume I’ve thought that earlier than. So I did assume that was fairly a helpful ending of it.
Helen Tupper: Yeah. Since you might say to any individual, these are the issues that I am actually excited by engaged on or fixing and there are two or three. After which you can explicitly ask the query, which of these feels most acquainted for you? Or is there one thing totally different that I’ve missed that is type of actually in your thoughts? After which somebody goes, oh, it is positively the development promotion one. And you are like, okay, let’s speak about that. Or I believe if it was extra casual like we’re doing a number of occasions in just a few weeks time when then like a lobster comes out and we’ll be each be assembly tons and many folks in fairly a brief house of time. I might then all the time ask a query primarily based on what we have been doing. So, oh, what one factor actually stood out for you from listening to the audio system? Or when did you first begin listening to the Squiggly Queers podcast? And somebody would possibly say, oh, think about I’ve by no means listened really I simply thought I would come alongside. Oh, however you then typically get folks going like, oh, I’ve listened, I pay attention in an advert hoc manner. Or I’ve listened because the very begin and I all the time discover it actually attention-grabbing to listen to folks’s like listening habits but additionally how they use the podcast. Yeah. As a result of I believe for our group it is all the time it’s fairly totally different too.
Sarah Ellis: Oh, my gosh. We should always do some publish on that as a result of I really feel like there could possibly be some actually intriguing insights since you all the time get just like the, I do not know, strolling the canine, however then you definately get some actually curious ones. They’re like, oh, squiggly careers on a kayak. And you are like, by no means. Sure, I by no means knew. So I adore it. In truth, in case you are listening now, um, in addition to on a kayak. Yeah, hope you are on a kayak. However in case you are listening now, we’d like to know, like, the place you hearken to the podcast. E-mail us helenand sarah squigglycareers.com as a result of I believe I might create a really enjoyable publish on social media with all of the, like, you already know, pitch of a canine, pitch of a kayak. Let’s have a look at how random these listening moments and locations are.
Helen Tupper: And many folks most likely commuting and strolling their canines.
Sarah Ellis: I can do a prepare too. I might do a prepare in a automobile. I might do. I might try this too. Um, so thanks for listening right now. We hope you’ve discovered it helpful. We’ll summarise these 5 formulation in our pod sheet. As I stated, you’ll be able to obtain that from our web site, which is amazingif.com we additionally put that in our weekly e-newsletter, Squiggly Careers in Motion. So be sure to’re signed up for that. We’ll put the hyperlink within the present Notes that comes out each Tuesday has all of the hyperlinks to pay attention and watch the podcast and the pod sheet too.
Helen Tupper: Thanks a lot for listening. That is all the things for this week and we’ll see you once more quickly. Bye for now.
Sarah Ellis: Bye, everybody. Sam.


